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Old 08-31-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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Anyone American who passes up Banff National Park because of the tiny hassle you get at the border is really missing out. One of the most spectacular places I've ever seen. Many other worthy destinations as well. And really nice, helpful people.

I found out, while taking the ferry to Alaska, that a whole lot of Americans don't go to or through Canada because they have a minor criminal record. Apparently a 20 year old DWI will give you some big time headaches. It's their prerogative but that seems somewhat unreasonable to me.
Americans can get a criminal record for the most minuscule offenses. I have VERY few friends (even within my professional circle) who have never been to jail, at least for a few hours. It's ridiculous.
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Old 08-31-2016, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Anyone American who passes up Banff National Park because of the tiny hassle you get at the border is really missing out. One of the most spectacular places I've ever seen. Many other worthy destinations as well. And really nice, helpful people.

I found out, while taking the ferry to Alaska, that a whole lot of Americans don't go to or through Canada because they have a minor criminal record. Apparently a 20 year old DWI will give you some big time headaches. It's their prerogative but that seems somewhat unreasonable to me.
That's because in Canada a DWI is a felony ( indictable offence )and not a gross misdemeanour. ( summary offence )
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Old 08-31-2016, 02:40 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Old 08-31-2016, 03:03 PM
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Location: On the Border
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That's because in Canada a DWI is a felony ( indictable offence )and not a gross misdemeanour. ( summary offence )
It's funny, none of the guys on the ferry I was drinking beer with could believe I'd never got one. Glad for that because as cool as the inside passage was, the drive through Canada coming home was immeasurably better.
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Old 08-31-2016, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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It's funny, none of the guys on the ferry I was drinking beer with could believe I'd never got one. Glad for that because as cool as the inside passage was, the drive through Canada coming home was immeasurably better.
There is a way, apparently lengthy, to get entry into Canada with a DWI. Probably costly too.

I've never had a DWI offence either. They ask me at land crossings into the US, if I've ever been arrested though. Certainly they have that information, so I'm not sure why they ask those of us, who don't have one.

Driving through BC is spectacular in places.
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Old 08-31-2016, 03:25 PM
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Location: On the Border
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There is a way, apparently lengthy, to get entry into Canada with a DWI. Probably costly too.
A friend who lives in AK that I visited was telling me his brother, when he drove up to visit, had to get a letter from the Queen. He was being facetious but it sure made me laugh.
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Old 08-31-2016, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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A friend who lives in AK that I visited was telling me his brother, when he drove up to visit, had to get a letter from the Queen. He was being facetious but it sure made me laugh.
LOL. Well it certainly wouldn't hurt.
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Old 08-31-2016, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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That's because in Canada a DWI is a felony ( indictable offence )and not a gross misdemeanour. ( summary offence )
Not quite, but you are on the right track.

A DWI (see Criminal Code s. 253) is a hybrid offense, where the prosecutor chooses whether to proceed summarily on on an indictable. For first offenses, the prosecutor will pretty much always choose summary. For repeat offenses, indictable might be chosen. But the prosecution has, and makes, the choice as to how to proceed.

Either choice will leave the accused with a criminal record upon conviction, which is what matters to the CBSA.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Not quite, but you are on the right track.

A DWI (see Criminal Code s. 253) is a hybrid offense, where the prosecutor chooses whether to proceed summarily on on an indictable. For first offenses, the prosecutor will pretty much always choose summary. For repeat offenses, indictable might be chosen. But the prosecution has, and makes, the choice as to how to proceed.

Either choice will leave the accused with a criminal record upon conviction, which is what matters to the CBSA.
I knew I shouldn't play lawyer

Welcome back Chevy!
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:32 PM
 
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Not quite, but you are on the right track.

A DWI (see Criminal Code s. 253) is a hybrid offense, where the prosecutor chooses whether to proceed summarily on on an indictable. For first offenses, the prosecutor will pretty much always choose summary. For repeat offenses, indictable might be chosen. But the prosecution has, and makes, the choice as to how to proceed.

Either choice will leave the accused with a criminal record upon conviction, which is what matters to the CBSA.
And also what matters to the U.S. border agents who ask you "have you ever been arrested?" in this age of database sharing guess what happens if you answer incorrectly to that one?

Getting thrown into cells overnight because you got caught speeding near Piapot Sask in 1962 at night on a souped up Triumph T120 Bonneville with no money for hotel expenses and assessed a $30 dollar fine by a sympathetic 1957 ex-judge-advocate-general member of the RCN does not excuse you from answering 'yes' to that query and once you explain the details and all attendant have a good chuckle; you're on your merry way, but god forbid you lie about that 'arrest' thingy.
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