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Old 08-25-2016, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Canada
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According to who? This is a don't tell and don't ask industry. If someone is being trafficked do you think things would end up well for them if they start sharing that they are really underage? They are likely to get beaten up or murdered. Some girls can easily look a lot older then they are depending on have they are dressed and conduct themselves. This stuff is happening all over this country and the world... but it is concealed. People without status that are trafficked are not accounted for so to some extent legally they don't exist.
And for the record, I never said this didn't exist, I am aware it does. I just don't know if Under age girls make up the majority of sex workers in Canada.

This is what wikipedia says about it.
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The exact number of people in sex work is not known, since this cannot be collected reliably. Estimates vary widely, and should be interpreted with caution.

About 10% to 33% of all prostitutes have been estimated to work primarily outside, and are thus more visible.[32] The 2006 Subcommittee on Solicitation estimated 5-20%.[4]

According to some estimates, most sex workers are young women (average 22-25), who began working between 16 and 20, most are single, and estimates of the number of prostitutes who have children suggest this is between 30-70%. In some field studies, 62% of prostitutes in Vancouver, 50% in Toronto, and 69% in Montréal claimed that they worked for themselves, while the presence and influence of pimps was more extensive in the Maritimes and on the Prairies. Drug use has been found to vary substantially by region and gender: it is highest in the Atlantic provinces, lowest in Québec, and appears to be a problem for the men more than the women. However, all these figures need to be interpreted with caution and compared to the general population.[32]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosti...ice_Statistics

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Old 08-26-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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And for the record, I never said this didn't exist, I am aware it does. I just don't know if Under age girls make up the majority of sex workers in Canada.

This is what wikipedia says about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosti...ice_Statistics
I have a huge mistrust towards the accuracy of stats on illegal activity. People breaking the law are not really the most likely to be participating in research studies and when they do it is likely because they have been caught.

It is just like I really would not trust the validity of stats revenue Canada created on drug dealers that properly pay their taxes . I you are doing something illegal you are not really likely to be forth coming about it unless you have already been caught or are a complete idiot. This stats are estimated guesses at best.
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Old 08-26-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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I did a search online and it is hard to find nation wide statistics on prostitution.

... because it is seedy industry.
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Old 08-26-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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... because it is seedy industry.
Obviously, that's why it needs to be regulated. That is what I am arguing here.


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I have a huge mistrust towards the accuracy of stats on illegal activity. People breaking the law are not really the most likely to be participating in research studies and when they do it is likely because they have been caught.

It is just like I really would not trust the validity of stats revenue Canada created on drug dealers that properly pay their taxes . I you are doing something illegal you are not really likely to be forth coming about it unless you have already been caught or are a complete idiot. This stats are estimated guesses at best.
Arrest records and records from child and family services do give us an idea of whats going on out there. It doesn't paint a 100% picture, sure. The link I posted clearly said it was an estimate. What exactly did you disagree with?
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Old 08-26-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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I really should made this thread a poll. I am interested in finding out if most people agree with legalizing, regulating and taxing prostitution across the country.
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Old 08-26-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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Obviously, that's why it needs to be regulated. That is what I am arguing here.




Arrest records and records from child and family services do give us an idea of whats going on out there. It doesn't paint a 100% picture, sure. The link I posted clearly said it was an estimate. What exactly did you disagree with?
Not disagreeing ... just trying to clarify/ emphasize a point. The problems are likely hugely under reported.
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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One UN study said that Canada was one of the 5 countries with the highest rates of child prostitution: Top Five Countries with Highest Rates of Child Prostitution

This article cites a study saying that 10-12% of B.C. prostitutes are under 18: http://www.bcmj.org/article/commerci...dren-and-youth

Again, due to the clandestine nature of the trafficking, that could be a lowball. Minors get subjected to sexual abuse even without prostitution being involved, simply because as children, they're powerless to get out of the situation ... in any case, legalizing prostitution for consenting adults would at least possibly free up resources to focus on child prostitution, assaults on children, and child pornography. There can always be more resources directed at those crimes, nothing's ever enough.
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Old 08-26-2016, 10:29 PM
 
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in any case, legalizing prostitution for consenting adults would at least possibly free up resources to focus on child prostitution, assaults on children, and child pornography. There can always be more resources directed at those crimes, nothing's ever enough.
It wouldn't just free up resources to focus on child prostitutes. It would directly cut into the child trafficking, which exists in part due to the clandestine nature of much of the sex industry to being with.
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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I really should made this thread a poll. I am interested in finding out if most people agree with legalizing, regulating and taxing prostitution across the country.
Can't you still add one to the thread or does that option get removed once people start responding?
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:49 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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I really should made this thread a poll. I am interested in finding out if most people agree with legalizing, regulating and taxing prostitution across the country.
My experience is that CD rarely represents the country (any country) opinions or stances on a topic such as this.

Canada has legalized sell of sex but illegal purchase. This is pretty much all I want for my country (US) and leave it up to the individual municipalities to decide if purchase also should be legalized and how to regulated it.

So the poll should be carefully worded.
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