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Old 09-19-2016, 07:35 PM
 
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I can't see where there is any reference to anyone being white in that post??

Oh, and Indians are Caucasian...
Yeah, but in this case she did have me pegged accurately for assuming "Alfred" was quintessentially an individual American without any other "cultural' background. My bad.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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I can't see where there is any reference to anyone being white in that post??

Oh, and Indians are Caucasian...
I've been posting in the Canadian threads long enough to have a hunch of the inferences BruSan drew from the post he responded to. In fairness, most people might have drawn the same conclusion.

Yes, Indians are Caucasian, anthropologically speaking. I used the term "whites" to refer to people of European origin. Thanks, though.

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Old 09-19-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Wow. Thanks, Luis.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:28 PM
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you know you can vote for a 3RD party candidate
True but Gary Johnson won't win and appears ill prepared he recently was asked about Aleppo and didn't know what it was.

I was a Sanders supporter at this point I hate Trump's vision for America more than I like anything anyone has offered. I will vote for Hillary she is our only chance for a future we can be proud of Trump is complete utter disgrace and a sad reflection at how many dumb people live in America his rise has been a con job unfortunately a lot of Americans eat up bull ****.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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So when the terrorists start shouting "Allahu Akbar" when they start attacking, that means nothing, right? No connection to any known religion, right?
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No. you made that up. There is no indication this individual shouted anything, at any time, nor is there any indication of any religious motivation.


St. Cloud mall attack that injured 10 probed as terrorism - StarTribune.com


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In a media briefing after midnight Sunday, St. Cloud Police Chief William Anderson said an off-duty officer from another jurisdiction confronted and shot the suspect Saturday night inside Crossroads Center mall. He said the man — dressed in a private security uniform — reportedly asked at least one victim whether they were Muslim before assaulting them, and referred to Allah ­during the attacks.


“We are currently investigating this as a potential act of terrorism,” said the FBI’s Richard Thornton, speaking at a news conference at police headquarters early Sunday afternoon. Thornton did not link the attack to a specific terror group.


Roughly 12 hours after the stabbings, a news agency said to speak for ISIL went to Twitter to claim credit for the mall violence. “The executor of the stabbing attacks in Minnesota yesterday was a soldier of the Islamic State and carried out the operation in response to the citizens of countries belonging to the crusader coalition,” the posting by the AMAQ news agency read.

And yet, you claim "Nor is there any indication of religious motivation." Yeah, right. Go and stick your head back into the sand.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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While the election is supposed to end on Nov 8 the whining and belly aching will continue on for years . eg; whining about Obama is still prevalent 8 years later.
I cant believe this is the best America can come up with for leadership an egotistical maniac and a woman every one apparently hates.
Trump is the one who started the birther movement back then, demanding to see President Obama's birth certificate and pushing the idea that he wasn't born in the US. Now supposedly he recognized that Obama is a US citizen. He is a disgusting, classless man who plays childish games.

What is scary is the fact that people support him no matter what- he can contradict himself, lie and exaggerate, but that's ok. He has even mentioned that he could shoot someone and his supporters would still love him. Narcissistic creep.

The media has a lot to blame though- they have normalized him, put him in the same category as Hillary Clinton to increase their ratings.
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Old 09-20-2016, 08:36 AM
 
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Trump is the one who started the birther movement back then, demanding to see President Obama's birth certificate and pushing the idea that he wasn't born in the US. Now supposedly he recognized that Obama is a US citizen. He is a disgusting, classless man who plays childish games.

What is scary is the fact that people support him no matter what- he can contradict himself, lie and exaggerate, but that's ok. He has even mentioned that he could shoot someone and his supporters would still love him. Narcissistic creep.

The media has a lot to blame though- they have normalized him, put him in the same category as Hillary Clinton to increase their ratings.
If I may take the liberty, I will provide an OPINION on what I believe forms the basis for Trump's popularity to so many Americans.

He is saying out loud what many Americans desire to have enter the public discourse. He is throwing it out there without the characteristic waffling, dribble-speak that usually forms the preamble to some discussion by the Politically Correct whose first priority is to cover both their political azz and there public face.

Discussions about refugee acceptance for an example, will undoubtedly happen regardless but with the unstated points being such as; 'they provide a risk', 'they refuse to assimilate', 'they bring with them a retrograde lifestyle and religion'. All of these points and hundreds more will form the background of any discussion regarding their entrance to the U.S. but they will remain "whispered" while Trump gets it out there at the very instant, in your face, where all parties know up front, these points WILL form a very major part of any discussion and will not be swept under some politically correct carpet so as not to appear racially/culturally prejudiced or bigoted; the priority for the Politically Correct.

His appeal is simply lighting the fire and making sure everyone sees it for what it is without the "appearance" only of keeping controversial viewpoints "whispered" but still there.

Like it or not; his wide acceptance illustrates he speaks the mind of many Americans. That's something that should not be taken for granted or written off as representing the ill-informed. The smart play for any party would be to understand the "WHY" and address it up front and openly.

Democrats would do well, and be wise to ask themselves where and whether they should change approach to provide compromise and co-operation instead of ignoring the threat and writing him off as a temporary aberration.

If he fails and they simply take that as confirmation of "their superiority" I predict the next one will be a rout the likes of which no one has seen since Mussolini was strung up by his Achilles tendons.

Underestimating the reasons behind the popularity of a Trump would be an arrogant and the most dangerous thing the Democrats could do at this stage of politics in the U.S.
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Old 09-20-2016, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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If I may take the liberty, I will provide an OPINION on what I believe forms the basis for Trump's popularity to so many Americans.

He is saying out loud what many Americans desire to have enter the public discourse. He is throwing it out there without the characteristic waffling, dribble-speak that usually forms the preamble to some discussion by the Politically Correct whose first priority is to cover both their political azz and there public face.

Discussions about refugee acceptance for an example, will undoubtedly happen regardless but with the unstated points being such as; 'they provide a risk', 'they refuse to assimilate', 'they bring with them a retrograde lifestyle and religion'. All of these points and hundreds more will form the background of any discussion regarding their entrance to the U.S. but they will remain "whispered" while Trump gets it out there at the very instant, in your face, where all parties know up front, these points WILL form a very major part of any discussion and will not be swept under some politically correct carpet so as not to appear racially/culturally prejudiced or bigoted; the priority for the Politically Correct.

His appeal is simply lighting the fire and making sure everyone sees it for what it is without the "appearance" only of keeping controversial viewpoints "whispered" but still there.

Like it or not; his wide acceptance illustrates he speaks the mind of many Americans. That's something that should not be taken for granted or written off as representing the ill-informed. The smart play for any party would be to understand the "WHY" and address it up front and openly.

Democrats would do well, and be wise to ask themselves where and whether they should change approach to provide compromise and co-operation instead of ignoring the threat and writing him off as a temporary aberration.

If he fails and they simply take that as confirmation of "their superiority" I predict the next one will be a rout the likes of which no one has seen since Mussolini was strung up by his Achilles tendons.

Underestimating the reasons behind the popularity of a Trump would be an arrogant and the most dangerous thing the Democrats could do at this stage of politics in the U.S.
Wholeheartedly agree with your analysis.

If the Democratic primary wasn't so well controlled by party's establishment, you'd see an openly socialist Sanders opposing Trump, instead of Hillary. Two least likely candidates only a cycle or two ago.

The American people are sick and tired of business as usual. And both parties better listen.
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Old 09-20-2016, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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The statement is about death by GUNS, not overall homicide rates. The statement is a simple fact, which the statistics prove.

The irony is that your safety is depending on a lot of " ifs ". Ifs that Canadians don't even have to think about.

Also remember the fact that mass shootings are on the rise in the US. Those take place in schools, malls, colleges, cinema's etc. The reality is that these shootings are more random, the perception that it could happen anywhere anytime can scare SOME people.

I travel to the US and I have my city smarts about me to know NOT to go to certain neighbourhoods. I also feel fairly safe in the places I go, but I'm always aware that I am in a country where more people are packing heat, than where I come from.
In other words, it's a carefully manipulated meaningless statistics designed to support an agenda.

If you look at the Wikipedia list of mass murders in Europe, and compare to the US, you'd see that while the US has more of them, the numbers are comparable.

A murder is a murder regardless of a type of a weapon used.

I bet you that if tomorrow Europe got our ghettos, and we kept our guns, the crime rates in both places would flip.
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: British Columbia ♥ 🍁 ♥
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...... A murder is a murder regardless of a type of a weapon used.
I don't agree with that. Murder is murder, that part is true. But many murders don't happen when potential murderers don't have access to the lazy coward's easy murder weapon that allows the murderer to safely stand back and physically distance themself and disassociate themself from the act with no risk to themselves.

That is to say, firearms, bombs and poisons are the weapons of murderers who are too weak, cowardly and lazy to risk personal effort or harm to themselves. Those weapons make murder too easy and impersonal for them. Other weapons require the murderer to get close to their victim and put personal physical effort into committing the act, at the same time risking coming to harm themselves.

If lazy murderers don't have such easy access to weapons that allow them to distance themselves there would be less murders because murderers don't want to have to do more than stand back and move more than one finger.

So, murder is murder but it is NOT regardless of the type of weapon used. Some weapons make murderers out of people who otherwise wouldn't have commit murder if it wasn't made so easy for them.

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