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Any military action would get the same results with no Canadian involvement (particularly as Canada almost never has an independent military action without US involvement). If Canada spends $0 in national defense, it will make zero difference to its own security, or world affairs.
in sum, it is not about the two are friendly with each other that defense if unnecessary. It is about one completely crushing the other overwhelming the other that any sort of "defense" is meaningless.
I'm sure PM's Borden and King would beg to differ. I would think that 1914-16 and 1939-41 qualifies as independent Canadian action without U.S. involvement.
As far as Canada being powerless against the U.S. you did rather well between 1812 and 1814. And Israel does rather well against the vast numerical and financial superiority of its neighbors. When your first military loss is your last it concentrates the mind wonderfully on victory.
I'm sure PM's Borden and King would beg to differ. I would think that 1914-16 and 1939-41 qualifies as independent Canadian action without U.S. involvement.
As far as Canada being powerless against the U.S. you did rather well between 1812 and 1814. And Israel does rather well against the vast numerical and financial superiority of its neighbors. When your first military loss is your last it concentrates the mind wonderfully on victory.
Come on, not 1812 again. That was British vs Americans, when the US was hardly 40 years old and nowhere near the peak of its time. Are you kidding me ? At that time, US GDP was 1/3 of that of UK/France and similar to Spain's. And you used that as an example?
Even during WWI Canadians soldiers were largely part of the British forces. As WWII, it was a world war, and Canada participated among a bunch of others. It was an active force but hardly any indispensable one. Very few textbooks world wide even talk about Canada's role. Most probably assume it was not in the war at all.
It is hard for Canadians to admit the world would be absolutely no different without the Canadian army, even for Canada itself. But it is true.
Come on, not 1812 again. That was British vs Americans, when the US was hardly 40 years old and nowhere near the peak of its time. Are you kidding me ? At that time, US GDP was 1/3 of that of UK/France and similar to Spain's. And you used that as an example?
Even during WWI Canadians soldiers were largely part of the British forces. As WWII, it was a world war, and Canada participated among a bunch of others. It was an active force but hardly any indispensable one. Very few textbooks world wide even talk about Canada's role. Most probably assume it was not in the war at all.
It is hard for Canadians to admit the world would be absolutely no different without the Canadian army, even for Canada itself. But it is true.
I wouldn't call Vimy Ridge a miniscule contribution. In addition, Juno Beach, Beaumont Hammel, the Teheran embassy rescue. And a lot more. Don't overly denigrate your own country.
I wouldn't call Vimy Ridge a miniscule contribution. In addition, Juno Beach, Beaumont Hammel, the Teheran embassy rescue. And a lot more. Don't overly denigrate your own country.
I wouldn't call Vimy Ridge a miniscule contribution. In addition, Juno Beach, Beaumont Hammel, the Teheran embassy rescue. And a lot more. Don't overly denigrate your own country.
That was extremely cool! It made a great film. Go, Canucks!
This, lol.
Also, they don't have nutjobs running for PM, and they don't have an armed citizenry. Lots to feel good and safe about.
Well they had Stockwell Day in 2000. And in 1988 or 1989 a lone First Nations person in the Manitoba Parliament derailed Meech Lake accords. The subsequent Charlottetown Accords were voted down in a public referendum.
And former PM King talked to his long-dead mother in seances and to his dog.
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BTW, OP, where in the Sunday Times was that? I missed it.
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