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Old 12-07-2016, 07:58 PM
 
Location: British Columbia ♥ 🍁 ♥
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If it's the same test I'm thinking it is then Canada has ranked high in that PISA test for years. Sometimes it goes up 2 or 3 points, sometimes it goes down 2 or 3 points, but overall it has always scored somewhere between 1 - 14 if I recall correctly. I think there was one year it was 16.

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Old 12-08-2016, 01:24 AM
 
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The PISA tests are quite ridiculous. The whole PISA study is pretty much nonsense. Different countries use different methods to execute these studies in their schools. Some countries for example don't let slow learners take part at these tests. The translation of the original questions from English into other languages is often poor. They are using testing methods that are typical for Anglo-American countries but are completely uncommon in other countries.
yeah, this is probably why countries like Taiwan, Korea or Japan did so well, while the Americans and British ranked on top?
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Old 12-08-2016, 01:29 AM
 
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Then how do you explain the fact that several East Asian countries/regions are near the top and they are known for their educational systems based on rote memorization?
you have no logic here.

First you are assuming East Asian teaching is bad, yes they have their own faults but nevertheless one of highest standards.

and second you assume rote memorization is bad, when it is crucial in the learning process. If you don't spend the time to memorize something, you can't learn it well in many cases. If you can't memorize 7 multiplied by 9 is 63 in half a second, or the square of 12 is 144, your entire education sucked.
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:20 AM
 
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How did each of the individual Provinces perform? You are allowed to break off and compete as your own "nation" and typically Quebec and Ontario perform the best in Canada. In the US Massachusetts, NC and Maryland opt to do the same.
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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How did each of the individual Provinces perform? You are allowed to break off and compete as your own "nation" and typically Quebec and Ontario perform the best in Canada. In the US Massachusetts, NC and Maryland opt to do the same.
Yes, Ontario and Quebec did pretty well on this as usual:


PISA 2015 Results Shows High Levels of Achievement by Canadian Students
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Old 12-08-2016, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Yes, Ontario and Quebec did pretty well on this as usual:


PISA 2015 Results Shows High Levels of Achievement by Canadian Students
...and BC too.
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Old 12-08-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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And Alberta. Oh, what the heck ..... everyone ..... we are all just way too cool, we all deserve to give ourselves a pat on the back.

Slightly off the topic but according to that report on Canada it mentions that as usual (and internationally too) boys outperform girls in math and girls outperform boys in reading. Does anyone know why that is?

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Old 12-08-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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you have no logic here.

First you are assuming East Asian teaching is bad, yes they have their own faults but nevertheless one of highest standards.

and second you assume rote memorization is bad, when it is crucial in the learning process. If you don't spend the time to memorize something, you can't learn it well in many cases. If you can't memorize 7 multiplied by 9 is 63 in half a second, or the square of 12 is 144, your entire education sucked.
I never said rote memorization is all bad and it can be useful in many contexts. I was questioning the other posters reasoning about PISA only testing problem solving skills instead of specific knowledge.
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Old 12-08-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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And Alberta. Oh, what the heck ..... everyone ..... we are all just way too cool, we all deserve to give ourselves a pat on the back.

Slightly off the topic but according to that report on Canada it mentions that as usual (and internationally too) boys outperform girls in math and girls outperform boys in reading. Does anyone know why that is?

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The ever pervasive gender bias I would think... although you would hope that is changing in 2016.
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Old 12-08-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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Canada making it into top 5-10 in Math and others and Eastern European countries such as Romania ranking almost at the end of the spectrum??

I personally find this super-biased. Math curriculum lacks big time in North America comparing to Europe.
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