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Old 12-09-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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Private tutors, are not the way to measure public education. However you are nothing but predicable. Any positive post about Canada and you have to find a way to put Canadians at the bottom the barrel.


No, I put North American high school students (USA and Canada), on average, at the bottom of the barrel compared to Europe, I'm an equal opportunity basher.....


A private tutor can absolutely evaluate the level of education received and, furthermore, I saw what was being taught to my stepson (in the US not Canada)
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Old 12-09-2016, 04:30 PM
 
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Private tutors, are not the way to measure public education. However you are nothing but predicable. Any positive post about Canada and you have to find a way to put Canadians at the bottom the barrel.

You've noticed.
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Old 12-10-2016, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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No, I put North American high school students (USA and Canada), on average, at the bottom of the barrel compared to Europe, I'm an equal opportunity basher.....


A private tutor can absolutely evaluate the level of education received and, furthermore, I saw what was being taught to my stepson (in the US not Canada)
Since all the studies point to Canadian students doing better than US student ( public schooling ) equating them is simply wrong. Canadian students are NOT in the bottom of the barrel compared to European students. Rankings show that.

The point wasn't about a private tutor being able to judge the education of an individual since OBVIOUSLY they can do that. The point was about a private tutor JUDGING the whole public school system form their small sampling of students, most likely seeking tutorship because they are lacking and need the extra help.

Even if those students going to a private tutor are going because they are brilliant, would still give you a false sense of the public school system.

So the point stands.

You may return to your regular scheduled bashing now.

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Old 12-10-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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You've noticed.
Ya, it's like a tennis match. Back and forth, back and forth...except when I hit the ball back, all I get in return is a swoosh of hot air.
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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Ya, it's like a tennis match. Back and forth, back and forth...except when I hit the ball back, all I get in return is a swoosh of hot air.

....You mean when I never get the ball back?? I lost count....
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:11 PM
 
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....You mean when I never get the ball back?? I lost count....
Whoosh !
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Old 12-10-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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Since all the studies point to Canadian students doing better than US student ( public schooling ) equating them is simply wrong. Canadian students are NOT in the bottom of the barrel compared to European students. Rankings show that.

The point wasn't about a private tutor being able to judge the education of an individual since OBVIOUSLY they can do that. The point was about a private tutor JUDGING the whole public school system form their small sampling of students, most likely seeking tutorship because they are lacking and need the extra help.

Even if those students going to a private tutor are going because they are brilliant, would still give you a false sense of the public school system.

So the point stands.

You may return to your regular scheduled bashing now.

Nat, calm down, get your valium....your usual lack of reading skills huh?? :My initial observation was not a comparison of the US and Canadian public school system but rather the relatively poor showing of Italy in that ranking.....yes a lot of empirical observation from me and from others put US and Canada quite behind Italy and Europe in general (high school students)...but we already know your uncritical acceptance of every published ranking out there....what is new??

My friend does not teach to students looking for tutorship, he teaches music (both privately and in several schools) and, actually, he tend to get the cream of the crop meaning students interested in extra curricula learning activities.....by the way, an other person that I know (German) teaches math in college (and privately) up there and his opinion is exactly the same...and yes their judgement is about the public school curricula content, nothing to do with the individual student....they do not say that the students are dumber or less gifted simply that the academic content is quite less challenging/advanced.

The US public high schools are better than Canada??...maybe, sure who cares?? That, again, was not my point....from an Italian (and Western European) perspective is like debating if it is better being hit by a baseball bat or a 2X4.....
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