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Old 12-25-2016, 07:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by saturno_v View Post
A prime minister with a majority government is very powerful...no term limits, actually you may end up with a prime minister you did not vote for (changing in the leadership of the party in power)

Someone else also said:

He can pass anything he wants in the House of Commons.

The chamber of sober second thought, the Senate has a say in matters but he also names Senators when he is in power. If he inherits a minority in the Senate he also has even the power to increase the size of the Senate and name people loyal to him, in order to gain a majority there too.

He also names the Governor General who gives royal assent to all laws and has, among other powers, the right to dissolve the government.

He names the judges to the Supreme Court of Canada, and a whole bunch of other judges all across the country.

He names the Lieutenant Governors of all of the provinces, who are responsible for approving provincial laws and can dissolve governments there too.

He names the head of the armed forces, and of the RCMP.
Interesting! Thanks.

Harper didn't appoint people to the Senate, and that hurt him because his proposed changes were often stopped by the Senate. Trudeau, on the other hand, has stacked the senate in his favour. Last week, Trudeau gave the Provinces an ultimatum regarding health care funding that shocked many.

 
Old 12-25-2016, 07:27 PM
 
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A prime minister with a majority government is very powerful...no term limits, actually you may end up with a prime minister you did not vote for (changing in the leadership of the party in power)

Someone else also said:

He can pass anything he wants in the House of Commons.


The chamber of sober second thought, the Senate has a say in matters but he also names Senators when he is in power. If he inherits a minority in the Senate he also has even the power to increase the size of the Senate and name people loyal to him, in order to gain a majority there too.


He also names the Governor General who gives royal assent to all laws and has, among other powers, the right to dissolve the government.


He names the judges to the Supreme Court of Canada, and a whole bunch of other judges all across the country.


He names the Lieutenant Governors of all of the provinces, who are responsible for approving provincial laws and can dissolve governments there too.


He names the head of the armed forces, and of the RCMP.
You've had all of this explained numerous times yet you still insist the Prime Minister has powers akin to the signing of Executive Orders. Wrong!

Executive orders: What they are and how they work

The number of executive orders by every U.S. president | The Daily Dot

If you can show me where any Prime Minister has exercised his power to bypass the houses of parliament in such egregious and UN-DEMOCRATIC fashion as those designed to do exactly that then you can begin to have a debate instead of the stupid condescending stuff we're reading on here.

We can also discuss Presidential Memorandums in context of those powers you think Prime Ministers have to ENACT LEGISLATION or take your country to war without the peoples representatives debating it.

The word another of your ilk used was "regressive", when nothing could be more regressive than the leader of any country willfully bypassing debate from elected parties to enact legislation the people do not agree with.

Does the definition of "dictator" totally escape you people?

Now that's REGRESSIVE!
 
Old 12-25-2016, 07:29 PM
 
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I don't know about the Canadian PM's power, but the U.S. President doesn't have the right to decide who goes on currency. The U.S. $20 is getting Harriet Tubman and the whole process is taking place at the Treasury Department through a lengthly public comment period with tons of legal and procedural hurdles. The process here is so long that Tubman won't be on the $20 until 2027, 15 years after the process began.

By U.S. statute, you must also be dead to be on U.S. currency as well.
It's normal for Kings and Queens to be on currency. Before the Euro, the Dutch royal family was on the currency.

As for the new woman on the Canadian 10 dollar bill, PM Trudeau claims to be a feminist, which is perhaps one of the silliest things he could say. It reveals just how little he understands about feminism, but at the same time it gives him a pretty image. He should have honoured the women who ensured that Canadian women are recognized as people, but his priorities are elsewhere - and he can kill two birds with one stone with this choice: the death of racism and manly-feminism.
 
Old 12-25-2016, 07:31 PM
 
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The U.S. President can only approve or disapprove pipelines that cross national borders. That's because the State Department is given the right to assess whether such a project would be in the national interest. The President can then command the Secretary of State to deny required clearances based on that Departmental assessment.

There's a lot of pipelines, like Mountain Valley and Atlantic Coast in Virginia, that are strongly opposed but are wholly within the purview of FERC. The White House has no say on those.
That's the same in Canada. Provinces can decide on pipelines in the province, but the Prime Minister can make decisions about inter-province pipelines based on what is in the best interest of the country.
 
Old 12-25-2016, 07:40 PM
 
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They want the U.S.A. to burn. Many Canadians in this forum are frothing anti-Americans who loathe the fact that the U.S. is the strongest power on Earth. They hate that Canada is in the shadows of the USA, and want nothing but to put the U.S. in its place.

For over 50 years, the bridge between the Francophone Quebecois and the Anglo Americans has been an incessant and irrational hatred of Americans. Canadians derive their identity from "not being American", so they need to constantly criticize the U.S. to affirm their common identity (which they lack outside of hating America.)

But don't take my word for it, the U.S. State Department says so itself: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...a-08OTTAWA1258







The U.S. government even has file folders on the Canadian inferiority complex. It's very sad that the Canadian people don't devote their talents to anything but obsessive invectives against Americans.
Oh well then since the stupid U.S. State Department; that well known bastion of educated thinking that has fugged up more portfolios than any other institution on the face of the planet says so it must be fact.

Why on earth would anyone use an opinion by stupid Americans to describe a meme propagated by stupid Americans and think it relevant.

Canada has file folders on American torturing of combatants and innocent Canadian citizens renditioned to states for the sole purpose of having them tortured, whanna compare file folders do ya??
 
Old 12-25-2016, 07:55 PM
 
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You've had all of this explained numerous times yet you still insist the Prime Minister has powers akin to the signing of Executive Orders. Wrong!

Executive orders: What they are and how they work

The number of executive orders by every U.S. president | The Daily Dot

If you can show me where any Prime Minister has exercised his power to bypass the houses of parliament in such egregious and UN-DEMOCRATIC fashion as those designed to do exactly that then you can begin to have a debate instead of the stupid condescending stuff we're reading on here.

We can also discuss Presidential Memorandums in context of those powers you think Prime Ministers have to ENACT LEGISLATION or take your country to war without the peoples representatives debating it.

The word another of your ilk used was "regressive", when nothing could be more regressive than the leader of any country willfully bypassing debate from elected parties to enact legislation the people do not agree with.

Does the definition of "dictator" totally escape you people?

Now that's REGRESSIVE!

First of all, I had nothing "explained to me", I suggested that someone told me that the PM of Canada is more powerful than a US president and couple of experts replied, confirmed and further detailed how the system works ....go and look at the original thread:

Why has Canada rid itself of its british culture unlike Australia and New Zealand?

Executive orders have constitutional reasoning and they can still truck down by the US Supreme Court...they have been used since George Washington administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execut...der#Criticisms

Finally, US Constitution 101....the Congress has the authority to declare war, not the president

The US political system so far has been very stable, it even survived a civil war.....


BruSan, get your valium....and, by the way, why you want to spend 6 months out of the year in a dictatorship?? I wouldn't....

P.S.

"Canadian PM more powerful than a president"

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...nvoy_says.html

"The Canadian prime minister is more powerful within this system than any other democratically elected leader in other advanced industrial countries”

http://poli-sci-mede104.blogspot.com...president.html

"The Canadian dictatorship"

http://ir.lib.uwo.ca/cgi/viewcontent...onomicsepri_wp

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Old 12-25-2016, 07:58 PM
 
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Actually, the point of this thread is to ask whether the liberal states should join with Canada. I pointed out that Canada is much, much, much poorer than the Blue States ($65k GDP PC vs. $43k in Canada) so the value derived from a merger would be deleterious to Blue States. That is the crux of my argument and all Canadians here seem to be blindly oblivious to that argument because nobody's responded to it.
You obviously did not read or comprehend the opening post of this thread. Here, I'll quote it:

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Do you think Canada/Canadians would like such a plan?
Almost every Canadian who responded did not like the plan.

Perhaps no one responded to your arguments because what Americans think or want is not the topic of this particular thread.
 
Old 12-25-2016, 08:22 PM
 
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You obviously did not read or comprehend the opening post of this thread. Here, I'll quote it:

Almost every Canadian who responded did not like the plan.

Perhaps no one responded to your arguments because what Americans think or want is not the topic of this particular thread.
Exactly! Canada does not need more land as it is already the second largest country in the world. Canada has open doors to people who need safe haven, and who can contribute to Canada's future.

Neither land on an earthquake fault, nor 38 million US immigrants, would improve Canada.
 
Old 12-25-2016, 08:55 PM
 
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Not so about Canada!

Canadians have their own 150 years of identity and culture. The origin is European ancestors.

USA have their own multi-layered identify and culture, one that is in many ways impaired by their slave history - German Angst on steroids. Besides the angst, there's the need to be numero uno. It's good to know that propaganda is used to ensure that people in the USA believe that everyone else wants to be just like them.
We're so impaired by our slave history that our current President is an African-American . When will Canada gets its first ethnic minority PM? For a country so supposedly progressive it's quite stark that every elected PM has been a white straight male.
 
Old 12-25-2016, 09:01 PM
 
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We're so impaired by our slave history that our current President is an African-American . When will Canada gets its first ethnic minority PM? For a country so supposedly progressive it's quite stark that every elected PM has been a white straight male.
That's not true. There was a female Prime Minister at one point.

Canada is only 150 years old, founded on European immigrants, and there just isn't a long history of people from other parts of the world. I'm confident that as Canada ages, and the population changes, there will be a Prime Minister with ancestry in the Middle East. Be patient.
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