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Old 01-06-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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Sure it's acceptable and true to suggest it. I can give you a few examples off the top of my head, although there may be others:

Honour killings and female genital mutilation - acceptable in some countries but not acceptable in Canada.

No longer in effect but there was the Potlatch Ban from 1885 to 1951.

Carrying of many types of culturally traditional weapons.

Bigamy and polygamy.

Underage marriage.

Forced marriage.

Spousal abuse.

Drug use or possession or trading of for religious purposes is banned to all cultures in Canada except for North American Natives (and those drugs can only be of those traditionally used herbal drugs found growing naturally in nature, some examples being peyote, psilocybin, amanita muscaria, salvia divinorum, certain types of kinickinick mixtures.)



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Good point. Canada does not prevent anyone from practicing cultural traditions providing that those practices do not violate law, or infringe on the autonomy of others.

Perhaps North American Natives should abide by Canadian law and stop getting stoned for religious reasons.
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Old 01-06-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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I agree that colonialism has taken its toll and it will take a very long time to heal but hopefully we can move in the right direction going forward.
Colonialism is certainly the new buzz word in aboriginal conversations. If the aboriginal community was colonized, why is there a need to assist these peoples with a modern lifestyle? Wouldn't colonization have achieved that?
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:33 PM
 
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Colonialism is certainly the new buzz word in aboriginal conversations. If the aboriginal community was colonized, why is there a need to assist these peoples with a modern lifestyle? Wouldn't colonization have achieved that?
No because the modern lifestyle and cultural assimilation was forced on them. Residential Schools are a big example among many other things.
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Old 01-06-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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No because the modern lifestyle and cultural assimilation was forced on them. Residential Schools are a big example among many other things.
Residential schools happened all over the world, so it's not a Canadian problem. Residential schools in other parts of the world are not held responsible for problems experienced by descendants of people who were in residential schools. Boarding schools are still a common thing.

Can't have it both ways - living up North and expecting someone else to pay for a modern lifestyle, and claiming that the modern lifestyle caused injury. No one is forcing anyone to live way up North, and no one is forcing anyone to accept a modern lifestyle.

The "stop colonialism" chant is a century too late, but that is what today's aboriginals are chanting. I don't think I'm alone is stating that I don't understand why this is the new conversation with aboriginals.
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Old 01-06-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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The importance to Canada of the Inuit in the north:

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Arctic sovereignty has yet to be officially declared and remains largely dependent on the effective occupation and the cooperation of the Inuit communities to self-identify as Canadians under rule of the Canadian government.
Arctic Discontents A Brief History of the Inuit Relocation Experiment Obiter Dicta

The article refers to the relocation in the 1950s of several Inuit families to the high arctic. There is more about this move in this article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Arctic_relocation

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The relocation has been a source of controversy: on one hand being described as a humanitarian gesture to save the lives of starving native people and enable them to continue a subsistence lifestyle; and on the other hand, said to be a forced migration instigated by the federal government to assert its sovereignty in the Far North by the use of "human flagpoles"
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The families were left without sufficient supplies of food and caribou skins and other materials for making appropriate clothing and tents. As they had been moved about 2,000 km (1,200 mi) to a very different ecosystem, they were unfamiliar with the wildlife and had to adjust to months of 24-hour darkness during the winter, and 24-hour sunlight during the summer, something that does not occur in northern Quebec. They were told that they would be returned home after two years if they wished, but these promises were not honoured by the government.
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Old 01-06-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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deneb, when are you moving up there to make a difference, anyway?
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Old 01-06-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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deneb, when are you moving up there to make a difference, anyway?
You never know... maybe I will I have friends who live up there and I have visited 2 out of 3 territories.
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Old 01-06-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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Residential schools happened all over the world, so it's not a Canadian problem. Residential schools in other parts of the world are not held responsible for problems experienced by descendants of people who were in residential schools. Boarding schools are still a common thing.

Can't have it both ways - living up North and expecting someone else to pay for a modern lifestyle, and claiming that the modern lifestyle caused injury. No one is forcing anyone to live way up North, and no one is forcing anyone to accept a modern lifestyle.

The "stop colonialism" chant is a century too late, but that is what today's aboriginals are chanting. I don't think I'm alone is stating that I don't understand why this is the new conversation with aboriginals.
I am not going to hijack this thread into one about residential schools or aboriginal mistreatment. All I will say is just because elsewhere in the world that refused to acknolwedge past wrongs doesn't mean that we have to follow suit and not do the right things.
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Old 01-06-2017, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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I am not going to hijack this thread into one about residential schools or aboriginal mistreatment. All I will say is just because elsewhere in the world that refused to acknolwedge past wrongs doesn't mean that we have to follow suit and not do the right things.
I agree, but just so we're clear, the right thing(s) is not investing additional billions beyond what has been paid in compensation.
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Old 01-06-2017, 04:12 PM
 
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I am not going to hijack this thread into one about residential schools or aboriginal mistreatment. All I will say is just because elsewhere in the world that refused to acknolwedge past wrongs doesn't mean that we have to follow suit and not do the right things.
Have the schools been closed? Has the public been made aware of the problems that were in place in the 1900s? Has there been truth and reconciliation as with the WW2 Japanese prisoners?

Is there something else that needs to be done?
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