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I guess I should explain more what I mean by manipulation. Here's a couple of examples:
Remember Trudeau's response to a question about quantum physics? It got a lot of good publicity in the world press. His response seemed spontaneous. However, it wasn't. It was staged in advance.
Then there was Trudeau out jogging, "accidentally" coming across a graduation party. The picture was picked up by the world press. Reporters were sure miffed after they submitted their articles when they discovered that they had been conned. There was nothing accidental about the encounter. Trudeau's personal photographer was in place ready to snap a picture when Trudeau jogged by.
To be honest, that sounds like something I would do jokingly - aske me about x, y, z, something other people wouldn't expect me to know about and then launch into an explanation of it. I'm not entirely understanding the story - was he earlier bored by some quantum physics event or cornered by a quantum physicist and he decided to make the most out of a boring thing? He seems to have given the game away before the interview by saying he hoped to be asked that. Maybe to make a point that he is more than a pretty face.
As far as his photographer, again, it's not unusual for politicians to stage photographs for use in promotional pamphlets and it isn't clear to me that that wasn't what he was doing. I enjoy photography and also have staged people doing actions that are meant to look spontaneous but aren't. I expect most people have.
His father, however... He was an amazing man. After he retired from politics, he lived next door to my father. He was as charismatic as a neighbor as he was as a politician. I guess some of that filtered down to his kid.
Among other traits they share is a love for huge budget deficits.
Even Harper could have enjoyed that rock-star status had he thrown tax payer's money away willy-nilly like Jr and kicked the can down the road.
To play up a staged photo op as a serious moral failing seems a bit much...
I don't think Trudeau has a serious moral feeling. Where did you get that from my posts? If there was an election today, considering the alternatives, I'd vote for the liberals. I do think he has good intentions and his way of inspiring people to be greater than they are reminds me of JFK.
As I said in my first post, manipulation can be positive or negative, and as Nat pointed out, and I agreed, I could have used a much more positive word to accurately describe the same actions. I just lost some trust and ability to take some of his actions at face value alone anymore. I'm willing to be proved wrong with time. No hurry as he is only midway through his term.
I am not sure if I like his apparent chairman of the board approach to the "job" with most of his time in the public eye trying to generate positive publicity for Canada and for himself. Previous PMs acted more like CEOs but I guess they had a different skillset.
I also wonder about his secrecy regarding approval of certain Chinese investments in Canada and am not sure I like the idea of a trade agreement with China.
Like I said, Trudeau is ok, but nothing to get excited about (I'm a Canadian living in Australia).
He is very good at passive diplomacy which boosts Canada's image worldwide. He is a strong advocate of tolerance, especially towards people of different backgrounds be it ethnicity, religion or the LGBT community. However, he hasn't done much of substance yet.
Trump doesn't really think, he still operates as a celebrity, firing people who disagree with him, tweeting about his victory in the election (we get it you won).. and that's just the more passive stuff. Then he bans people from certain countries which leaves people stranded at the airport, some who are legal residents of the US, pulls out of Paris...
That being said, I don't think his presidency will spell doom for the country like I here mentioned all the time. The US is powerful enough that it can sustain itself, and nothing any president does will tarnish my image of the country which is very high.
Thanks for you perspective, and honesty. I used to travel a lot to, and within Canada for business years ago when Trudeau Sr. was PM, and also Brian Mulroney. Mostly Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and Vancouver. As I am relatively conservative, I didn't like the first Trudeau, nor the current one, but since he's not my PM, I don't feel the need to get into specifics, plus I just don't know a lot about him, more just generalities.
Not really. Only the first 8 or so years of his life. Much of his schooling was in Montreal, where he lived on Pine Avenue with his father.
Well...if you do the math.....Justin Trudeau born dec. 25, 1971,
his dad, Pierre Trudeau left office, spring 1984,
so the first 12 or so years of his life.
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