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Old 01-26-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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That's exactly what I was concerned with. If religions seek to overthrow the Canadian values of respecting individual human rights, female genital mutilation will be allowed under religious practices. That's a huge problem for women, much more serious than abortion rights.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:14 PM
 
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As Acajack pointed out, in Canada, a fetus is not considered to be a person until it has been born and can live independently of its mother. It may need some help from the paediatric intensive care unit, but it is not a person until it is born.

After it is born, it has rights. Prior to that, it has none.

At all times, the question of abortion is between a woman and her conscience and her doctor. Politics and politicians never enter into it, and religion enters only if the woman's religion guides her conscience.
Then what is it, a cabbage? An ottoman? Perhaps an oak sapling?

Human heartbeat, human brainwaves, human organs, human laugh, human cry and most importantly HUMAN DNA. But in Canada a baby in the womb isn't a person until it's born?!?!?!?

Why is Canada so anti-science?
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:16 PM
 
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That's exactly what I was concerned with. If religions seek to overthrow the Canadian values of respecting individual human rights, female genital mutilation will be allowed under religious practices. That's a huge problem for women, much more serious than abortion rights.
So cutting the body is more serious than killing another body? Man, the thoughts about abortion by many here are barbaric and savage.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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Then what is it, a cabbage? An ottoman? Perhaps an oak sapling?

Human heartbeat, human brainwaves, human organs, human laugh, human cry and most importantly HUMAN DNA. But in Canada a baby in the womb isn't a person until it's born?!?!?!?

Why is Canada so anti-science?
No reason to be dramatic. Abortion is a woman's right in most countries. Individual human rights should not be compromised because some people want to force their beliefs on others. There is no place in Canada for imposing radical views on others. If a woman wants to force a young girl to undergo genital mutilation in the name of crazy thinking, she needs to be stopped. That young girl has individual human rights that must be respected and protected.

Extracting cell division from a human body is not death.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:27 PM
 
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The further explanations given by the government make perfect sense. These religious leaders want it both ways.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:29 PM
 
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So cutting the body is more serious than killing another body? Man, the thoughts about abortion by many here are barbaric and savage.
We like our abortion rights. And our +10 years of gay marriage. And our socialized medicine. And pretty much everything that drives conservatives crazy. Check out who we elected as Prime Minister for reference.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:38 PM
 
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No reason to be dramatic. Abortion is a woman's right in most countries. Individual human rights should not be compromised because some people want to force their beliefs on others. There is no place in Canada for imposing radical views on others. If a woman wants to force a young girl to undergo genital mutilation in the name of crazy thinking, she needs to be stopped. That young girl has individual human rights that must be respected and protected.

Extracting cell division from a human body is not death.
What does this mean exactly? And what do you mean by "being dramatic"? That's pretty condescending and insulting. Are you arguing that a baby in the womb is not another life? is that really what you are arguing?
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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We like our abortion rights. And our +10 years of gay marriage. And our socialized medicine. And pretty much everything that drives conservatives crazy. Check out who we elected as Prime Minister for reference.
Who's "we"? Do the little Canadians in the womb that are being aborted like abortion rights? I feel like critical thinking is a premium in this thread.
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Old 01-26-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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What does this mean exactly? And what do you mean by "being dramatic"? That's pretty condescending and insulting. Are you arguing that a baby in the womb is not another life? is that really what you are arguing?
Given the strong position on termination of fetus, I assumed that there was understanding of the process of fetal gestation. See: human embryogenesis for more information.

This topic seems to be about individual human rights and a bizarre religious position that disagrees with those rights. It doesn't really have much to do with wombs and fetal tissue.
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Old 01-26-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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Given the strong position on termination of fetus, I assumed that there was understanding of the process of fetal gestation. See: human embryogenesis for more information.

This topic seems to be about individual human rights and a bizarre religious position that disagrees with those rights. It doesn't really have much to do with wombs and fetal tissue.
I see that you made no attempt whatsoever to answer my question. So I will ask it one more time and see if you are willing to answer this time: is your position that a baby in the womb is not a human life?
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