Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It's actually the groups seeking government funding that have this questionnaire, not the job applicants themselves. I'm of two minds about this. Governments do have an obligation, imo, to ensure that taxpayer money goes to those companies/associations that don't discriminate in many matters - it's not just about abortion. None of which means that those same groups can't have their personal agendas - for example anti-abortion groups - they just need to cover the costs themselves. Some summer jobs stuff will never involve whatever opinion a group holds and I'd have a real problem on principle if I was someone who wanted to hire a few workers to do some yard cleanup and have to answer that kind of questionnaire. I wouldn't be interested in the personal views of those workers and can't see how it would ever come up. It would sort of be like asking a person's religion - private. No reason to talk about it as a company or as an individual. I don't think that religions and secular organizations should be obliged to hold to the same standards - that is the state messing in matters that don't concern them.
But I'm also of the opinion that churches and the like should pay taxes. I see no reason for the government to fund churches on that level. I think the charitable tax status is abused by churches who want all the benefits of the kingdoms of both heaven and earth and in the case of some, have plenty of money and use it to build ever larger buildings.
"Under new guidelines announced in December, groups applying for a federal grant program, which provides roughly $113 million in annual funding for about 70,000 student jobs, must check a box on an electronic form acknowledging that they respect “individual human rights in Canada.”
That's totally reasonable. Anyone who thinks that they have the right to disrespect the autonomy of others, and to impose their personal beliefs on others, should not receive government funding. The money is taxpayer money, and taxpayers have made their values clear. Specifically, no group will disrespect individual human rights. If that's a problem, those who want to disrespect individual human rights should seek funding elsewhere.
I think it's perfectly fine for people who have difficulty accepting abortion to not have abortion, but that's as far as their rights go regarding abortion as an option.
"Under new guidelines announced in December, groups applying for a federal grant program, which provides roughly $113 million in annual funding for about 70,000 student jobs, must check a box on an electronic form acknowledging that they respect “individual human rights in Canada.”
That's totally reasonable. Anyone who thinks that they have the right to disrespect the autonomy of others, and to impose their personal beliefs on others, should not receive government funding. The money is taxpayer money, and taxpayers have made their values clear. Specifically, no group will disrespect individual human rights. If that's a problem, those who want to disrespect individual human rights should seek funding elsewhere.
I think it's perfectly fine for people who have difficulty accepting abortion to not have abortion, but that's as far as their rights go regarding abortion as an option.
What about the rights of the individual being aborted?
According to Canadian law, judgements and practices a fetus is generally considered to become a person after childbirth, or at least once its survival is somewhat viable independently of its mother's body. So in the latter stages of a pregnancy.
Generally speaking I believe the latest you can get an abortion in Canada is in the vicinity of 20 weeks or so.
What about the rights of the individual being aborted?
That's another question, one that relates to: when does life begin and what constitutes a human with rights? I think it's rather difficult to claim that a fetus without a heartbeat is alive, on the other hand doctors have been known to take a 24 week fetus with a heartbeat and artificially incubate it until it can survive independent of medical technologies.
Cell division that cannot survive outside the womb is not human life and therefore there's no need to consider the rights of divided cells.
What about the rights of the individual being aborted?
As Acajack pointed out, in Canada, a fetus is not considered to be a person until it has been born and can live independently of its mother. It may need some help from the paediatric intensive care unit, but it is not a person until it is born.
After it is born, it has rights. Prior to that, it has none.
At all times, the question of abortion is between a woman and her conscience and her doctor. Politics and politicians never enter into it, and religion enters only if the woman's religion guides her conscience.
As Acajack pointed out, in Canada, a fetus is not considered to be a person until it has been born and can live independently of its mother. It may need some help from the paediatric intensive care unit, but it is not a person until it is born.
After it is born, it has rights. Prior to that, it has none.
At all times, the question of abortion is between a woman and her conscience and her doctor. Politics and politicians never enter into it, and religion enters only if the woman's religion guides her conscience.
Stepping away from the abortion issue, and returning to the original point of whether this is reasonable: "groups applying for a federal grant program, which provides roughly $113 million in annual funding for about 70,000 student jobs, must check a box on an electronic form acknowledging that they respect “individual human rights in Canada."
If radical Christians and pro-life advocates were successful in overthrowing individual human rights on the basis of unborn cell division, that would clear the way for female genital mutilation and all sorts of real human rights violations.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
