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Old 03-18-2018, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Isn't it in high school where children learn about various political ideologies? Should children without any structured understanding of politics be voting?
I think children learn about it at home, which for good or ill, is where they get most of their moral values and ideas. I don't think world views start at the exact time they begin learning about a subject in school.
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Old 03-19-2018, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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Funny story based on the most recent posts here. When I was of age to vote for the first time, I asked my Dad "Who are you voting for?" (Which, in my mind, meant "Who are we voting for?" or "Who should I vote for?") He said "It's not your business; I'm not telling you." I was shocked. I guess that was his way of saying that I should think for myself. Kinda harsh.

The kids that I know now, though, are so unlike the kid that I was and the friends that I had. It seems that they know so much more about everything -- politics included -- about the world around us and the world that we live in. Two kids that I'm thinking of in particular would have made better and more-educated choices at 12 (!!!) than most adults would make.
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Funny story based on the most recent posts here. When I was of age to vote for the first time, I asked my Dad "Who are you voting for?" (Which, in my mind, meant "Who are we voting for?" or "Who should I vote for?") He said "It's not your business; I'm not telling you." I was shocked. I guess that was his way of saying that I should think for myself. Kinda harsh.

The kids that I know now, though, are so unlike the kid that I was and the friends that I had. It seems that they know so much more about everything -- politics included -- about the world around us and the world that we live in. Two kids that I'm thinking of in particular would have made better and more-educated choices at 12 (!!!) than most adults would make.
My father said the same thing, but his point was that each and every persons vote is private, like your mail. You don't have to tell anyone.

To this day, during elections when I get phone calls wanting my support for so and so, I still say the same thing.
" I am going to vote, but my vote is personal and private ".

They seem happy with that.

I have only missed one election that I was eligible to vote in since I first voted many, many years ago. I vote, because like the cliche states, " If you don't vote, you can't complain"...and boy, do I like to complain! LOL
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I think it makes good sense. It would help young people feel more connected and engaged to the political sphere at an early age and help shape government policy that will effect them in the future like post-secondary education funding. The earlier people begin to vote the more likely they are to continue to do so.

If young people are not responsible enough to vote at 16 then they damn well shouldn't be driving.
I think the posts here have convinced me that voting at 16 may not be so bad after all.
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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I think the posts here have convinced me that voting at 16 may not be so bad after all.
no, at 16 they are considered minors and do not have the capabilities to be their own legal entity...

if they want to vote at 16, they need to assume the rest of the legal obligations that come with being recognized as "independent" adults

oh right, if they are recognized at 16 as "independent", there goes their health insurance... sorry mom/pop, we want to vote so we can't be on the family plan anymore
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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no, at 16 they are considered minors and do not have the capabilities to be their own legal entity...

if they want to vote at 16, they need to assume the rest of the legal obligations that come with being recognized as "independent" adults

oh right, if they are recognized at 16 as "independent", there goes their health insurance... sorry mom/pop, we want to vote so we can't be on the family plan anymore

We are talking about 16 year olds in Canada. I gave in post #9 a link that shows what rights a 16 year old currently has in BC. It may differ depending on province or territory. They do have certain rights already, and voting could just be another.

You health insurance comment does not apply in Canada. Everyone is covered, regardless.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Near Luxembourg
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No. At 16 you are too reactive. Good to be lured by extremes.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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No. At 16 you are too reactive. Good to be lured by extremes.
Some may be. Sounds just like adults.

Many young people are involved in politics already. Depending on the party, the age to join is either 14 years of age, or 16.

Many of course aren't interested in politics. Again, sounds like adults.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Horrible idea. Teenagers are idiots.

I know for a fact; I was one.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Near Luxembourg
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Some may be. Sounds just like adults.

Many young people are involved in politics already. Depending on the party, the age to join is either 14 years of age, or 16.

Many of course aren't interested in politics. Again, sounds like adults.
I was 16 8 years ago. I am quite aware of what 16 yo millenials think...
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