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Old 03-11-2019, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Well, perhaps that's not the actual inspiration for the Jason Kenney thing, but the fact that a Canadian would find the notion of "strong and free" to be alien to this country is still weird to me. Especially that it's in the seventh line of the national anthem.
That I give you, without reservation.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:40 PM
 
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Well, perhaps that's not the actual inspiration for the Jason Kenney thing, but the fact that a Canadian would find the notion of "strong and free" to be alien to this country is still weird to me. Especially that it's in the seventh line of the national anthem.

Nobody said anything about strong and free being alien to this country.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Nobody said anything about strong and free being alien to this country.
As this thread gets posted on , the meaning gets farther and farther from the original post.
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I do wonder though... what is with Jason's slogan "Alberta Strong and Free". Free? What?

It definitely sounded like you thought Kenney pulled those words out of his butt or something... when as I said, they're from the national anthem.
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Old 10-29-2019, 06:59 PM
 
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It definitely sounded like you thought Kenney pulled those words out of his butt or something... when as I said, they're from the national anthem.

I do know all the words in O Canada. I just thought it was an odd slogan for Alberta in particular.
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Old 10-30-2019, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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I do wonder though... what is with Jason's slogan "Alberta Strong and Free". Free? What?
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Alberta's motto is Fortis et liber. Better known as strong and free.
As Mike stated, Alberta's provincial motto ("Fortis et Liber"), translated into English from Latin, is "Strong and Free."

For that matter, Ontario's provincial motto is "Ut Incepit Fidelis Sic Permanet," or in English, "Loyal she began, loyal she remains." British Columbia's is "Splendor sine occasu," or in English, "Splendour without diminishment." Nova Scotia's is "Munit Haec et Altera Vincit," or "One defends and the other conquers."

All provinces have mottos, most of them in Latin. Mr. Kenney was simply restating Alberta's. It's not an odd slogan for Alberta; it's Alberta's provincial motto. The phrase "strong and free" may appear in the words to "O Canada," but it also appears (in Latin) on the coat of arms of the province of Alberta, and has since Alberta became a province.
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Old 10-30-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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No, the leader of the federal incarnation of a political party that also exists in the provinces does not exert any leadership powers over the provincial parties.


There is collaboration in some cases (but not in all) between the federal party and some provincial ones, and in many instances it's mostly the same people who are members of both and volunteering for both.


Even between the federal Liberals and the Quebec Liberals (the classic case) even though there is no organizational relationship between the two, in terms of rank and file there is lots of overlap and some movement of candidates between the Ottawa and Quebec City scenes.


Though one of the Quebec Liberals' most recent leaders (who was also Premier), Jean Charest, was a Conservative federally.


And Lawrence Cannon, a Quebec Liberal went to the federal Conservatives.


Thomas Mulcair, a Quebec Liberal, was the leader of the federal NDP.
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Old 10-30-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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To the person who wrote to me in the rep section...


No, the leader of the federal incarnation of a political party that also exists in the provinces does not exert any leadership powers over the provincial parties.


There is collaboration in some cases (but not in all) between the federal party and some provincial ones, and in many instances it's mostly the same people who are members of both and volunteering for both.


Even between the federal Liberals and the Quebec Liberals (the classic case) even though there is no organizational relationship between the two, in terms of rank and file there is lots of overlap and some movement of candidates between the Ottawa and Quebec City scenes.


Though one of the Quebec Liberals' most recent leaders (who was also Premier), Jean Charest, was a Conservative federally.


And Lawrence Cannon, a Quebec Liberal went to the federal Conservatives.


Thomas Mulcair, a Quebec Liberal, was the leader of the federal NDP.
To confuse matters, we have the BC Liberals. In no way associated with the Federal Liberals. In fact, they aren't even liberals, but more right of centre, and have in many ways replaced the old Social Credit Party. If any cross pollination happens from a federal party into the BC Liberals, it's usually from the Conservatives.
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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To confuse matters, we have the BC Liberals. In no way associated with the Federal Liberals. In fact, they aren't even liberals, but more right of centre, and have in many ways replaced the old Social Credit Party. If any cross pollination happens from a federal party into the BC Liberals, it's usually from the Conservatives.
Yes, your provincial "Liberals" are actually Conservatives, from what I understand.
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