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Old 07-28-2019, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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...thankfully it's reality!
So will your taxes if Quebec ever becomes a country. Right now Quebec has it as good as it will ever have it and the quality of life for people in both Canada and Quebec would only get much worse, not better.
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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So will your taxes if Quebec ever becomes a country. Right now Quebec has it as good as it will ever have it and the quality of life for people in both Canada and Quebec would only get much worse, not better.
Exactly!

Quebec needs to remain part of Canada, for now.

Canada is a great resource, and Canada wants to be our resource.

Which allows us to use Canada to our advantage.

Everyone benefits from this arrangement!
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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Exactly!

Quebec needs to remain part of Canada, for now.

Canada is a great resource, and Canada wants to be our resource.

Which allows us to use Canada to our advantage.

Everyone benefits from this arrangement!
Kinda like a cultural parasite eh?
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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Kinda like a cultural parasite eh?
Sorry, what do you mean by "a cultural parasite?

Is that like anglo Canada copying the U.S?
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Old 07-28-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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Well that escalated quickly!

I don't agree that non-whites destroy cities, there are far too many cities that are nice and majority non-white on the continent like Toronto, New York and Washington DC.

With ideas like this, why on earth would you want to become a Canadian citizen?

When are you leaving Quebec?
Well, it's a political discussion. Seems pretty tame; let's not resort to personal retorts like saying I am unwelcome here or there.

Toronto is actually the whitest large city in North America after Montreal. It's about 50% rather than 70% visible minority (US cities are generally 70% or more). Besides, Ontario took great pains to ensure that it's mostly model minorities such as East Asians (and to a degree, Indians). Washington DC is very bad outside the areas intended for bureaucrats, and it's spilling over anyway. NYC was pretty terrible until the mop-up operation in the 90s, and there was a lot of money involved. Do you genuinely think Montreal would have its beautiful, clean, safe, green, well-kempt, popular, cultured centre if it had the demographics of Baltimore for a few decades?

Canada is not a hive mind, so people support various ideas. It seems to me that there is a lot of backlash against "multiculturalism", and I expect this tendency to only grow. Indeed, Canada is at the forefront of that confrontation, with some of the most out there stuff being tested here. Besides, one needs to balance the immigrants who automatically and unthinkingly support population change. Otherwise, even if Canadians are split 50/50 on the issue, giving citizenship to such immigrants will tip the balance unfairly against Canadians who do not want to become a minority. In general, it's a rather lovely country that is at risk, so one feels compelled to help it. It's also easy to access the US from here, so it's the best deal.

I'll be leaving Quebec in a few years. Why? Would you prefer that everyone is ethnically different, but supports the same ideology? You ought to celebrate diversity.

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Old 07-28-2019, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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What do we think of the CAQ? easy! a racist, backward, anti-Montreal, anti-anything not French and catering to uneducated hillbillies in rural Quebec areas. Rather than focusing on real issues, they focus on cutting immigration (which will hamper the economy) religious symbols (an unimportant issue) and a French values test (discriminatory). It's clear what vision they have for Quebec and it's not a good one. The only reason why Quebec is doing great at the moment is due to the policies passed by the Liberal party under Couillard. Meanwhile, all Quebec does is suck resources out of Canada because "Quebec is special". I'm from here and let's be honest, outside of the French language, there's nothing unique or different about Quebec (maybe the corruption is unique?). I mainly feel bad about Montreal, such an amazing city being held back by an incompetent and backward province, hopefully, this changes soon.
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Old 07-28-2019, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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What do we think of the CAQ? easy! a racist, backward, anti-Montreal, anti-anything not French and catering to uneducated hillbillies in rural Quebec areas. Rather than focusing on real issues, they focus on cutting immigration (which will hamper the economy) religious symbols (an unimportant issue) and a French values test (discriminatory). It's clear what vision they have for Quebec and it's not a good one. The only reason why Quebec is doing great at the moment is due to the policies passed by the Liberal party under Couillard. Meanwhile, all Quebec does is suck resources out of Canada because "Quebec is special". I'm from here and let's be honest, outside of the French language, there's nothing unique or different about Quebec (maybe the corruption is unique?). I mainly feel bad about Montreal, such an amazing city being held back by an incompetent and backward province, hopefully, this changes soon.
Montréal without the Québécois francophone character and dimension is basically a colder Cleveland. Without the rock and roll hall of fame.

Food for thought for those who claim to love the city and its uniqueness.
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Old 07-29-2019, 02:42 AM
 
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Sorry, what do you mean by "a cultural parasite?
Do i really need to explain the term to you?
Im sure you know what culture means,heres what parasite means =
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par·a·site
/ˈperəˌsīt/

an organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
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Old 07-29-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Canada
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The CAQ running Quebec is a good thing since they are increasing our autonomy.

In 2018 parties for outright independence like PQ and QS won 33% of the vote.

Parties wanting maximum autonomy (CAQ) won 37% of the vote.

And the pro-Canada Liberal party only won 24%.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Exactly!

Quebec needs to remain part of Canada, for now.

Canada is a great resource, and Canada wants to be our resource.

Which allows us to use Canada to our advantage.

Everyone benefits from this arrangement!
Then why change it?
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