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Old 07-27-2019, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I would argue they are still less "official" than Swedish.

Whereas in Canada under the law and even in practice to a large degree, English and French are equally official.
Yes, they are lesser than Swedish but it might provide a template for how to proceed with official indigenous languages. Of course as others have pointed out, French already exists at that lesser level in some western provinces, for all the usefulness of it.
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Old 07-27-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Yes, they are lesser than Swedish but it might provide a template for how to proceed with official indigenous languages. Of course as others have pointed out, French already exists at that lesser level in some western provinces, for all the usefulness of it.
And if we used the Swedish model of a three generation rule for official minority status, my language would be one of them, hehehe.
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Old Yesterday, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Mexico has given official recognition to 364 native languages/dialects. Bolivia officially recognizes 36 native languages. Big deal, though. It is largely symbolic. Quebec nationalists were on it with Bill 101, but even after 40+ years French still has low status vis-a-vis English (depending on context). Making a language official, as others posts have said, changes very little "on the ground", unless official status is accompanied by something a whole lot more substantial. Ireland made Irish Gaelic its "first official language" in 1922(?), but where is it today? Yes, a lot of people know a word or two, but it really isn't a spoken language, except in the shrinking Gaeltachts. Its role remains primarily symbolic. But, hey, you can use it at the EU!
Yes, Bill 101 even if imperfect was the right idea.

Overall,

French in Quebec is clearly stronger than any indigenous language (that underwent colonialism) anywhere in the world. It is also stronger than Catalan in Catalonia and Irish in Ireland.

But French in Quebec is weaker than French in francophone Switzerland and francophone Belgium.
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Old Yesterday, 09:25 AM
 
Location: In transition
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One would hope that if the federal government gave official status to indigenous languages that would open up a lot of funding to help promote and develop these languages especially in the educational system by developing good curriculum materials and training teachers so that the next generation of indigenous children going forward will become fully fluent in their languages and use them at home outside of the classroom. With all the damage that we've done to indigenous people through the residential school system and colonialism in general, it is one of the main things Canada can do to help rebuild their cultures. Language is an important part of culture as the language we speak helps to form our worldview that one might otherwise lose.
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Old Yesterday, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Making all indigenous languages official would require translating all official documents to all those languages

An unnecessary use of money
It's just not practical. Government employees must be proficient in official languages and there are 70 distinct aboriginal languages in Canada.
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Old Today, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Only to have it translated to French can cause an uproar in most of Canada. So, no.
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