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Old 07-28-2019, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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The deadline for us spending 2% is not even here yet and has nothing to do with needing help to defend ourselves, nor this story.

Canada could triple the soldiers salaries build fancy Recreation centres on every base and build mansions for its officers get up to the 2% without having any affect on our defence capacity. Under NATO membership members need to step in when other members are attacked.. No matter what Trump claims the US never came to Canada's defense and we sent troupe to aid NATO and the States in Afghanistan. The States are not subsidizing our defence, they just want to have bigger armies in the world so that when NATO does need a force more can step up at that moment. We has as many soldiers per capita in Afghanistan that the US did and they were the onescattacked

As far as the original post, I imagine the are many military and policing arrangements between the two countries.
Sure, of course, because Canada is decidedly within the American sphere, and the U.S. defends us as something of a protectorate state. Canada depends upon the goodwill of the Americans to carry on with such a nonchalant doctrine.
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Old 07-28-2019, 06:32 PM
 
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then Canada would never be able to carry on as we do.
But according to your own people, they are the cause of so many of the world's problems?
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Old 07-29-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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Sure, of course, because Canada is decidedly within the American sphere, and the U.S. defends us as something of a protectorate state. Canada depends upon the goodwill of the Americans to carry on with such a nonchalant doctrine.
While I don't think the US feels Canada needs to be protected as a " Protectorate State "When or even IF a RED BEAR came over the Pole the US would be on the front line with you.
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Old 07-29-2019, 10:49 AM
 
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Sure, of course, because Canada is decidedly within the American sphere, and the U.S. defends us as something of a protectorate state. Canada depends upon the goodwill of the Americans to carry on with such a nonchalant doctrine.
From whom does the US protect us from? That is just a claim to make them feel better about how much they overspend on their National Defence. During much of the Cold War, if the USSR attacked us they would be cutting off their supply of whest. When has China attacked a country not a Jacen to it? How would Iran, Iraq, North Korea attack us?

I have yet to hear of one instance where the United States had to step in to defend us. The idea that each and every country needs the ability to defend itself from every other country is an idea that has become obsolete. Canada is a member of several coalitions designed to protect the entire group from attacks. Norad, NATO, British Commonwealth etc. Yes the United States is among many 9f those coalitions but of the States is attacked, NATO counties have and will step in for America's protection.

The big winners of increased defense spending are the arnament manufacturers. The Americans would be better off decreasing their spending and put it towards it's people and we would be no less protected.
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Old 07-29-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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But according to your own people, they are the cause of so many of the world's problems?
You are. But that's a worldwide sentiment. Not really a Canadian thing.

They're also part of the solution to a lot of problems. It's a funny old thing.

Example: You went to Iraq, we didn't go to your made up war.

Since when do allies have to get along like lovers?
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Old 07-29-2019, 04:57 PM
 
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...sels-1.4732583
Why didn't the Canadians fire at the US navy or declare war?
Are you stupid or just another crazy?



US Border Protection can stop any vehicle or boat within 100 miles of the border. That's their job and the rules and they don't need a stinking warrant. We see them on a regular basis. If you act like an ass, you'll be treated like one.



Typically, the USCG usually makes those stops up to the edge of the 200 nm EEZ (of the continent). If you shoot at them, they will shoot back - most likely fatally with much larger hardware. Those guys are not to be messed with - they will make your next 20 yrs miserable. Your vessel will be seized and impounded. The vessel owners will be fined - heavily. Any catch on board will be left to rot at the impound dock. And you won't be able to retrieve your vessel.


Go away and stop making stupid assumptions!
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Old 07-29-2019, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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From whom does the US protect us from? That is just a claim to make them feel better about how much they overspend on their National Defence. During much of the Cold War, if the USSR attacked us they would be cutting off their supply of whest. When has China attacked a country not a Jacen to it? How would Iran, Iraq, North Korea attack us?

I have yet to hear of one instance where the United States had to step in to defend us. The idea that each and every country needs the ability to defend itself from every other country is an idea that has become obsolete. Canada is a member of several coalitions designed to protect the entire group from attacks. Norad, NATO, British Commonwealth etc. Yes the United States is among many 9f those coalitions but of the States is attacked, NATO counties have and will step in for America's protection.

The big winners of increased defense spending are the arnament manufacturers. The Americans would be better off decreasing their spending and put it towards it's people and we would be no less protected.
Canada's ability to be "nice" to the world everyone rests on American goodwill.
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Old 08-03-2019, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Are you stupid or just another crazy?



US Border Protection can stop any vehicle or boat within 100 miles of the border. That's their job and the rules and they don't need a stinking warrant. We see them on a regular basis. If you act like an ass, you'll be treated like one.



Typically, the USCG usually makes those stops up to the edge of the 200 nm EEZ (of the continent). If you shoot at them, they will shoot back - most likely fatally with much larger hardware. Those guys are not to be messed with - they will make your next 20 yrs miserable. Your vessel will be seized and impounded. The vessel owners will be fined - heavily. Any catch on board will be left to rot at the impound dock. And you won't be able to retrieve your vessel.


Go away and stop making stupid assumptions!
The Border Patrol 100 miles is from an international boundary, 100 miles inland in US Territiry. Not into another nations territory. Same with USCG. The 200 mi nautical mile limit is into international waters, not foreign territory or waters within another nations 200 mile limit.
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:10 PM
 
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The Border Patrol 100 miles is from an international boundary, 100 miles inland in US Territiry. Not into another nations territory. Same with USCG. The 200 mi nautical mile limit is into international waters, not foreign territory or waters within another nations 200 mile limit.

You go argue with D.C.
That's the laws I quoted.
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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Canada's ability to be "nice" to the world everyone rests on American goodwill.
So you claim. Who in the past 50 years would have started a war with Canada if the US was not our neighbour?
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