U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Canada
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-26-2019, 11:33 PM
 
7 posts, read 1,903 times
Reputation: 10

Advertisements

[url]https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/us-border-patrol-approached-questioned-canadian-vessels-1.4732583[/url]

Why didn't the Canadians fire at the US navy or declare war?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-27-2019, 01:26 AM
 
Location: British Columbia ☀️ ♥ 🍁 ♥ ☀️
7,419 posts, read 6,675,662 times
Reputation: 14629
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackrichard1621 View Post

..... Why didn't the Canadians fire at the US navy or declare war?

It wasn't the US navy. It was Border Patrol on training exercises in mutually patrolled waters. Your question is foolish and makes you sound like a war mongering teenage troll. The incident isn't worth Canadian fishermen firing guns and getting themselves killed for it, nor is such a minor dispute important enough for two nations who are friends and partners to be declaring war against each other over it. Get real. Seriously.

Read the article again. Read it slowly and carefully and this time actually pay close attention to what you're reading.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...sels-1.4732583

.

Last edited by Zoisite; 07-27-2019 at 01:46 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2019, 01:32 AM
 
7 posts, read 1,903 times
Reputation: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoisite View Post
It wasn't the US navy. It was Border Patrol
Isn't that the same thing? Do cops from the US have the right to arrest anyone from Canada without Canada's authority?

And regardless, many canadians were angry!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Montreal
401 posts, read 274,621 times
Reputation: 303
Jackrichard, the US and Canadian are close allies and our militaries work together.

Canada still hasn't ever come close to our original NATO pledge of 2% of our GDP per year, I believe we are still just over 1%, and the US continues to cover the rest for us.

They basically protect us, and we take that money we would have spend on starting a Canadian Marine Corps, instead we get to spend it on healthcare, or other social services.

Besides, the war would be over in about a week. Maybe two if we are lucky.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2019, 11:49 AM
 
7 posts, read 1,903 times
Reputation: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBeauchamp View Post
Jackrichard, the US and Canadian are close allies and our militaries work together.
And you speak for the majority of your people?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2019, 12:20 PM
 
Location: British Columbia ☀️ ♥ 🍁 ♥ ☀️
7,419 posts, read 6,675,662 times
Reputation: 14629
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBeauchamp View Post

........ we take that money we would have spend on starting a Canadian Marine Corps, instead we get to spend it on healthcare, or other social services.
Nah, that's not quite how it works nor is it the reason why we don't have what you call Canadian Marine Corps.

The full story for your information: https://www.globalsecurity.org/milit...anada/sctf.htm

and this section is about ALL of Canada's present day military forces: https://www.globalsecurity.org/milit.../canada/cf.htm

.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2019, 10:03 PM
 
6,111 posts, read 2,337,636 times
Reputation: 2299
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBeauchamp View Post
Jackrichard, the US and Canadian are close allies and our militaries work together.

Canada still hasn't ever come close to our original NATO pledge of 2% of our GDP per year, I believe we are still just over 1%, and the US continues to cover the rest for us.

They basically protect us, and we take that money we would have spend on starting a Canadian Marine Corps, instead we get to spend it on healthcare, or other social services.

Besides, the war would be over in about a week. Maybe two if we are lucky.
The deadline for us spending 2% is not even here yet and has nothing to do with needing help to defend ourselves, nor this story.

Canada could triple the soldiers salaries build fancy Recreation centres on every base and build mansions for its officers get up to the 2% without having any affect on our defence capacity. Under NATO membership members need to step in when other members are attacked.. No matter what Trump claims the US never came to Canada's defense and we sent troupe to aid NATO and the States in Afghanistan. The States are not subsidizing our defence, they just want to have bigger armies in the world so that when NATO does need a force more can step up at that moment. We has as many soldiers per capita in Afghanistan that the US did and they were the onescattacked

As far as the original post, I imagine the are many military and policing arrangements between the two countries.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2019, 12:13 AM
 
7 posts, read 1,903 times
Reputation: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by badlander View Post
I imagine the are many military and policing arrangements between the two countries.
So you agree that what they did was legal?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2019, 02:20 AM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
2,207 posts, read 1,772,776 times
Reputation: 2700
Quote:
Originally Posted by badlander View Post
The deadline for us spending 2% is not even here yet and has nothing to do with needing help to defend ourselves, nor this story.
It bears repeating that the NATO 2% pledge refers to a NATO member country's pledge to spend 2% of its GDP on its own military. It is not a pledge to donate 2% to the NATO organization. As such, the United States is not picking up any of our shortfall--if that was the case, then the US would be buying our new fighter jets, equipping our army on its own dime, and building our navy frigates in its shipyards, at no cost to us. And it would rightly complain about having to provide us with military materiel, at no charge.

Except it is not. The United States is doing none of the above. Its only complaint is that we (and some other NATO members) are not spending enough on our military. I have no problem with spending 2% of our GDP on the military--I've had a few friends in various branches (mostly, the RCAF and the RCN)--and they would like to see additional spending on the military. I agree with them.

Recalling what an RCAF friend used to joke about:

What does the USAF say when they shoot a missile on an exercise and it explodes? "--Oooohh! Ahhhhh!"

What does the RCAF say when they shoot a missile on an exercise and it explodes? "--There goes another fifty thousand bucks."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2019, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Montreal
401 posts, read 274,621 times
Reputation: 303
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChevySpoons View Post
It bears repeating that the NATO 2% pledge refers to a NATO member country's pledge to spend 2% of its GDP on its own military. It is not a pledge to donate 2% to the NATO organization. As such, the United States is not picking up any of our shortfall--if that was the case, then the US would be buying our new fighter jets, equipping our army on its own dime, and building our navy frigates in its shipyards, at no cost to us. And it would rightly complain about having to provide us with military materiel, at no charge.

Except it is not. The United States is doing none of the above. Its only complaint is that we (and some other NATO members) are not spending enough on our military. I have no problem with spending 2% of our GDP on the military--I've had a few friends in various branches (mostly, the RCAF and the RCN)--and they would like to see additional spending on the military. I agree with them.

Recalling what an RCAF friend used to joke about:

What does the USAF say when they shoot a missile on an exercise and it explodes? "--Oooohh! Ahhhhh!"

What does the RCAF say when they shoot a missile on an exercise and it explodes? "--There goes another fifty thousand bucks."
It is undeniable that the U.S. defends Canada.

No one is saying they are outfitting the RCAF, that is a different topic.

If the U.S. were a fragmented group of varying national states, or if the U.S. was a hostile country, then Canada would never be able to carry on as we do.

We don't have to worry about defence like every other country. It's taken care of.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Canada
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top