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Old 07-13-2022, 12:02 PM
 
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Are they treated like people who have no agency, who can’t be held responsible for bad choices that make?
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Interesting angle to approach the question from.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:36 PM
 
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I live in a big city and the only time I really see First Nations people is when I travel to rural areas near reserves, so I really don't know how we "treat" them.

Though, I've heard plenty of stories about many northern cities / towns racial profiling them. Like hearing about floor walkers in Canadian Tire shadowing any Native people who come into the store.

I'm curious in what your purpose is in posting this. Are you stating that Native people should stop complaining and do something with their lives?

I certainly hope you know the deep history of how they were mistreated and abused way before Canada became a country. If you don't think this matters, then there is no need for a conversation really.
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Old 07-14-2022, 08:07 AM
 
Location: B.C., Canada
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Are they treated like people who have no agency, who can’t be held responsible for bad choices that make?
Is that how the natives are treated where you live?

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Old 07-14-2022, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Each year the Canadian Federal Government gives SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS to the First Nations with very little accounting of how that money is spent. Here is a recent news article by the Toronto Star about this topic. link.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edit...irst%20Nations.
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Old 07-14-2022, 05:19 PM
 
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Each year the Canadian Federal Government gives SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS to the First Nations with very little accounting of how that money is spent. Here is a recent news article by the Toronto Star about this topic. link.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edit...irst%20Nations.
Okay, so your point is?

Basically it's our government being inept. Blank cheque given to ANY governing body with no accountability is stupid. You end up having the crooked higher ups in the system taking advantage of it... because it's free money. The actual people who need the money gets very little of it.

Our government is infuriating because we only hear of the few big obvious wastes of our tax dollars... for example the ridiculous Phoenix payroll system... ineptitude that will cost over 2.6 billion dollars and no guarantee that it will ever work.

You do NOT hand over money with no policies and controls in place... no matter what the department.
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Old 07-14-2022, 08:11 PM
 
Location: B.C., Canada
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Each year the Canadian Federal Government gives SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS to the First Nations with very little accounting of how that money is spent. Here is a recent news article by the Toronto Star about this topic. link.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edit...irst%20Nations.
Just want to point out that the above noted article is not recent, it's from 7 or 8 years ago so things have changed in that time. Here is the point of view of the First Nations Assembly with the reported ASSEMBLY OF FIRST NATIONS BULLETIN – Federal Budget 2022 posted on April 8, 2022 and a summary of it. Go to the link for further information.

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https://www.afn.ca/assembly-of-first...l-budget-2022/

SUMMARY:
  • The federal budget was tabled in the House of Commons on April 7, 2022.
  • The Budget 2022 commits a total of $11 billion over 6 years for Indigenous priorities, an average of $1.8 billion per year.
  • The $11 billion is a substantial reduction from the rate of investment this government had made over its first 6 years in office and falls short in addressing the urgent and long-term needs identified by First Nations.
  • The Assembly of First Nations (AFN) is pleased to see the investment in child and family services, specifically the $4 billion to support the full application of Jordan’s Principle.
  • The AFN conducted a thorough analysis of First Nations housing needs, identifying a required investment of $44 billion over 10 years. The $3 billion over five years for First Nations housing falls short of the AFN’s well-researched identified need.
  • Many of the priorities identified in the AFN’s pre-budget submission, such as governance, implementing the MMIWG Calls to Justice and post-secondary education, saw no new investments. This will slow First Nations’ recovery and participation in the economy.
  • The AFN will continue to advocate for consistent and sustained investments to support the ongoing healing of First Nations and to close the socio-economic gap.
The 2022 federal budget tabled Thursday April 7, 2022 by federal Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland commits a total of $11 billion for Indigenous priorities.

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Old 07-14-2022, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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This is really tough. I think the bigger question is, how are they coping after hundreds of years of having their culture, languages and history marginalized. Not to mention having their lands colonized by multiple invaders, with countless ancestors wiped out in the name of religion, cultural 'superiority' and territorial expansionism. Oh and the cruelty committed against them scores and scores of years after - heinous killings that we are constantly reminded of being unearthed seemingly every other day..

That all said - how are they treated. In general, what comes to mind is with ignorance of the above and the impact, along with indifference. We are busy with our modern day life, Rogers telecommunications goes out and we notice the impact severely and we have a lot of feelings about that. It impacted 'ME' - so I think lastly, they are not treated with enough empathy.

If they were maybe we wouldn't be so focused on the tax dollar sent their way and maybe focus on trying to connect more with Indigenous people.

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Old 07-15-2022, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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It really is a tough issue.

There is a tremendous amount of government funding that is devoted to Indigenous-related issues and programs in Canada.

The question is whether all this money is going to the right places and initiatives and truly helping the people as it could, and in this sense it's not just the federal government that could be lacking in being properly focused but also the Indigenous governments themselves which can be highly variable in terms of accountability and sound governance.
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Old 07-21-2022, 02:17 PM
 
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Never in my entire life of living in remote and rural locations have I met people with a greater susceptibility to substance abuse. It is difficult for me to say, not having been trained in neuroscience or genetics, to what extent this comes from their miserable living conditions and angst-laden worldview or some vulnerability in their ability to resist addiction or weigh risks.
In cities with a single digit percentage of native inhabitants, it isn't uncommon for town drunks, people who consume gasoline or cleaning chemicals, and so on, these people who are on a first name basis with local law enforcement, to all be native. The proliferation and popularization of recreational marijuana hasn't done them any favors, either.

It takes a high-minded and analytical native man to rise above the angst politics and endeavor to become an educated and cultured member of our society (remember, those who scoff, that we set a very low bar here!), but even these illuminated native men often succumb to treacherous and poisonous substance abuse.

There is a political paradigm that the natives, having been dealt a terrible hand, are justified in their angst and Marxist class struggle, which often becomes murderous. It is all the more true that if one has been dealt a terrible hand that they had best fold.
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