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Old 11-10-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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I notice that quite a number of patients from Surrey chose to have their eye surgeries done at MRH.
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Old 11-10-2022, 09:01 PM
 
Location: B.C., Canada
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I notice that quite a number of patients from Surrey chose to have their eye surgeries done at MRH.
Patients don't actually get a lot of choice of hospitals to get their surgical procedures done, they have to go to whatever hospitals it is that their physicians are allowed and have registered hospital privileges to do their surgeries in and that have the required equipment for specialized surgeries. For example, my retinologist takes patients from all over the province and he resides in my town but he doesn't practise in my town. He has his medical offices for regular appointments/common procedures in 2 shared clinics, one in New Westminster and one in Surrey, but he can only do his surgeries in Vancouver (VGH) and Coquitlam (Eagle Ridge Hospital).

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Old 11-10-2022, 10:55 PM
 
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Nobody here can read the eye doctor's mind so it's not possible for somebody else to tell you why the doctor is or is not doing something.

Ask your family practitioner to make a confirmed appointment for you with the eye doctor. It's part of your family doctor's responsibilities for him to make arrangements like that for you if required.

Do you have objections to your family doctor doing that for you?

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My family doctor confirmed to me the eye doctor received my referral in Sept and then 1 month later when my family doctor still did not receive my appointment date he sent a second referral and thats when my family doctor's secretary told me that the eye doctor will mail my appointment date to my home address and that I must contact the eye doctor if I don't receive it. How can my family doctor confirm this appointment date when it wasn't made yet by this eye doctor, I guess i'll ask my family doctor if he can confirm the date thanks.

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Old 11-10-2022, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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I live in ON and don't need a referral from my family Dr to see an ophthalmologist I book directly pay the fee and claim it on my government health insurance (I am a public servant covered under Canada Life insurance) but insurance aside I do not need to be referred and to be honest the fee to see the eye Dr is not that bad (less than C$200 Canadian)
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OP could just walk into any optometrist for an eye examination and pay out of pocket. If there is anything serious, he could be referred to the eye hospital.
I think we're getting confused about the difference between an "optometrist" and an "opthalmologist."

An optometrist is a practitioner who can administer eye exams, and can prescribe lenses (i.e. glasses) to correct the vision of those who need them. I can call my optometrist and get an appointment for an eye exam tomorrow (which I might need to do, as my glasses are not as good as they once were). At any rate, optometrists are commonly addressed as "Doctor," though they do not hold an MD degree. And yes, their services are typically covered by an employer's supplementary insurance. People without insurance pay full freight to be seen by an optometrist.

An opthalmologist, on the other hand, is a medical doctor who specializes in eye problems, up to and including surgery. You don't see one of these specialists just because you need new glasses. You see them because there are more serious issues with your eyes than an optometrist can address, and your GP has made a referral to the opthalmologist. The provincial health plan typically covers opthalmologist services.

Point is, there's a big difference between "optometrist" and "opthalmologist."
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:16 AM
 
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No confusion here.
If OP is in a hurry and do not want to wait too long, an optometrist can dilate the eyes and determine what kind of opthalmologist to send him to - eg. one that specializes in retina, glaucoma, cornea, cataract ... etc. He has already waited >2 months.

A GP/family doctor does not have the high-tech equipment and expertise in that field, but still can refer one to an ophthalmologist. The latter might have to refer him to another ophthalmologist, and so on and so forth. LOL could be stressful, as some blindness is irreversible.
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Old 11-11-2022, 05:21 AM
 
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Speaking from experience with my mom in Ontario and cataracts/glaucoma, it was actually her Optometrist who identified those issues and referred her to an Ophthalmologist. Normally Optometrists are the first practitioners to notice these issues and not GP's. The referral was quick actually, but it took a while to get the actual surgery done. She had to go to multiple appointments for tests etc beforehand.

If I were the OP and as others stated - just go to an Optometrist and get on with your life! If you have extended health care benefits, it'll most likely cost you nothing as you can just submit the exam costs to your insurer. You can get into see an Optometrist pretty much in days. Call up your local Lenscrafters, Hakim or Pearle Optical stores they mostly have in house Optometrists. Weekend appointments are even possible.

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Old 11-11-2022, 07:45 AM
 
Location: NJ
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My family doctor referred me to an eye specialist (an ophthalmologist) in Ontario Canada and sent the referral by fax in Sept 2022. Its been almost 2 months and the specialist did not arrive at the appointment date when hes actually accepting new patients the past month. I phoned the specialist's office and the secretary informed me in her exact words, hes arranging to see the more urgent patients including who have cancer and she did not know when the appointment date will be made for me. Usually how long does it take for an eye specialist to arrive at an appointment date in Canada? Since he has the patient list in front of him, why didn't he already arrive at the date within 48 hours or even 7 days at most? What if I still don't get an appointment date in 4 to 6 months is there a medical department in Ontario Canada that will handle my complaint without him cancelling me as a patient after I file it? Is there any way for me to receive a quicker appointment date by this specialist since it is important for me to know in advance? I'm not asking that the appointment be made quicker, i'm just asking for the date of the appointment.


Why don't you just find another eye specialist on google? The one your GP recommended has no time to see patients apparently. Find another who will get you in faster.

If you do sign a complaint, it would do you good to find new words on how to say what you're trying to say, that two months ago your doctor sent a referral to the specialist but they have not contacted you to tell you when the doctor can see you. It's taken over two months yet you still do not have an appointment date. The more clear you are, the better help you will get.
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Old 11-11-2022, 09:16 AM
 
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Speaking from experience with my mom in Ontario and cataracts/glaucoma, it was actually her Optometrist who identified those issues and referred her to an Ophthalmologist. Normally Optometrists are the first practitioners to notice these issues and not GP's. The referral was quick actually, but it took a while to get the actual surgery done. She had to go to multiple appointments for tests etc beforehand.

If I were the OP and as others stated - just go to an Optometrist and get on with your life! If you have extended health care benefits, it'll most likely cost you nothing as you can just submit the exam costs to your insurer. You can get into see an Optometrist pretty much in days. Call up your local Lenscrafters, Hakim or Pearle Optical stores they mostly have in house Optometrists. Weekend appointments are even possible.

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All of this angst over a situation created by having the GP notice something and perform a stalled referral could be circumvented by just walking into any office with the word "Optometrist" on the shingle. If indeed there is a condition of concern, the optometrist is better trained to note the severity and will have a number of Ophthalmologist's he could refer you to.

I had that very situation occur a couple of years back when my optometrist, doing our routine once a year inspection, noticed a small abnormality on the retina of my left eye and referred me to an ophthalmologist. I saw her within that same month.

Perhaps, as Chevy has explained, there is some confusion with newcomers, or people less than familiar with the vernacular confusing the terms "specialty"; a particular branch of medical practice with the term "specialist" a higher level of practitioner within a specialty.
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Old 11-11-2022, 03:00 PM
 
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Why don't you just find another eye specialist on google? The one your GP recommended has no time to see patients apparently. Find another who will get you in faster.

If you do sign a complaint, it would do you good to find new words on how to say what you're trying to say, that two months ago your doctor sent a referral to the specialist but they have not contacted you to tell you when the doctor can see you. It's taken over two months yet you still do not have an appointment date. The more clear you are, the better help you will get.
Simple and wise advice. This is what keeps me coming back to CD, a place full of kind and generous people.

I am not familiar with the Ontario Healthcare system. Here in BC, ophthalmologists are remunerated dirt cheap when compared with even developing countries. In the OP's case, he is encountering a disorganised Clinic Admin that fails to schedule an advance appointment, say 2-month, 4-month, 6-month ahead. OP suffers no real damage yet that requires a complaint, but that Clinic might go bankrupt with imcompetent staff, high cost of leasing and operating.
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Old 11-11-2022, 06:42 PM
 
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THIS

All of this angst over a situation created by having the GP notice something and perform a stalled referral could be circumvented by just walking into any office with the word "Optometrist" on the shingle. If indeed there is a condition of concern, the optometrist is better trained to note the severity and will have a number of Ophthalmologist's he could refer you to.

I had that very situation occur a couple of years back when my optometrist, doing our routine once a year inspection, noticed a small abnormality on the retina of my left eye and referred me to an ophthalmologist. I saw her within that same month.

Perhaps, as Chevy has explained, there is some confusion with newcomers, or people less than familiar with the vernacular confusing the terms "specialty"; a particular branch of medical practice with the term "specialist" a higher level of practitioner within a specialty.
Yeah for sure. GP's can muddy the waters in certain instances, and this would be one of them. Same thing if I have major toothache, i'm not going to the family Doc - i'm running to my Dentist or an emerg dental clinic... Stat.

It can be confusing though for as you said newcomers or just those who simply don't know the system. I hope the OP gets this sorted and glad you got your issue resolved.
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