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View Poll Results: Should Canada Offer UBI to LGBT Residents?
Yes 3 17.65%
No 14 82.35%
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Old 11-29-2022, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Thanks.

I don't see how transgenders can qualify as low income people, otherwise as low income people how can they afford to pay for the whole process of becoming transgenders? Considering everything involved, including the expenditures involved, with the full procedures required for them to go through it's very, very expensive to make such a transition. It's also expensive to mentally/medically/pharmaceutically maintain being a fully transitioned person for the rest of their lives.

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Some aspects of transition are covered by basic as well as extended healthcare plans. it will not provide support for some of the expensive surgical procedures required to get a result they would want. Once the physical surgery is completed, the prescriptions are often covered by plans either in the Province for Canada or by their extended health plans through work.

Many will often go overseas for cheaper surgeries - Colombia and believe it or not Turkey!

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Old 11-29-2022, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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So, San Francisco is not giving away money to any and all trans people who claim to be trans. It is giving money away only to those who are selected, and presumably vetted, through an application process. And then, only 55 of them, and for a limited time. Just like it has to other past and future groups.

We can have a better discussion when we know all the facts. I hope that I have provided them.
nice digging sherlock lol. Seriously though, facts matter! I mean 55 people it is not even really worth a discussion in a national context.
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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If Canada actually develops a UBI, it should be based on income, not sexual orientation or gender identity.
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Old 11-30-2022, 11:56 AM
 
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If Canada actually develops a UBI, it should be based on income, not sexual orientation or gender identity.
Didn’t Ontario try an UBI once?
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Old 11-30-2022, 12:09 PM
 
Location: B.C., Canada
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Several places in the US are offering universal income to transgender residents. San Francisco is offering up to $1200 per month to it's transgender residents and other aces like Palm Springs are doing similar things. Should Canada catch up in this regard?
No. Canada doesn't need to "catch up" with anything that America is doing. Just because America is going down the tubes from freely throwing around the hand outs left right and center to so many "special" entitlement minded people of all sorts doesn't mean that Canada should follow suit to "catch up" to America.

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Old 11-30-2022, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I remember reading about this at the time: Ontario Basic Income Pilot Project

“The pilot project aimed to give a fixed income for three years to people with low or no incomes.”

The project “would test whether "Basic Income [would] reduce poverty more effectively, encourage work, reduce stigmatization, and produce better health outcomes and better life chances for recipients". It was then implemented in 2018 by the Ontario Liberal Party. However, the project was terminated early by a newly elected Progressive Conservative government, and the final payments were made to participants in March 2019.”
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Old 11-30-2022, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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If Canada actually develops a UBI, it should be based on income, not sexual orientation or gender identity.
Not sure about the other letters, but "L" and "G" people tend to have higher than average incomes.
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Old 11-30-2022, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I remember reading about this at the time: Ontario Basic Income Pilot Project

“The pilot project aimed to give a fixed income for three years to people with low or no incomes.”

The project “would test whether "Basic Income [would] reduce poverty more effectively, encourage work, reduce stigmatization, and produce better health outcomes and better life chances for recipients". It was then implemented in 2018 by the Ontario Liberal Party. However, the project was terminated early by a newly elected Progressive Conservative government, and the final payments were made to participants in March 2019.”
This was first tried in Dauphin, Manitoba in the 70s. https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article...ome-experiment
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Old 12-01-2022, 06:50 AM
 
Location: ottawa, ontario, canada
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Didn’t Ontario try an UBI once?
maybe under Bob Rae?
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Old 12-01-2022, 02:38 PM
 
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maybe under Bob Rae?
Well, wouldn't they be buddies in bad times?
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