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Old 11-03-2023, 07:24 AM
 
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I wonder if she wore brown makeup or inherited a dark complexion from her Italian father.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:40 AM
 
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I assumed Buffy was more well known in Canada. Here in the U.S you never hear of her. Maybe some of the more hardcore Folk music listeners know her here in the U.S.

PBS had her documentary "Carry It On" listed for re-airing. They showed another documentary instead. I wonder if it was related to this current controversy?
In her heyday I am pretty sure she was equally popular in Canada and the US, but at this point sure she's mostly a celebrity from another era.

I suppose she may have a little bit more residual star power in Canada due to her being idolized as an Indigenous Canadian icon for so long.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:45 AM
 
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I wonder if she wore brown makeup or inherited a dark complexion from her Italian father.
There are a lot of different Indigenous "looks" out there and I've always found there could be similarities in features and skin tone between certain people from around the Mediterranean region (on all sides of it) and some of the lighter skinned Indigenous people of the Americas.

So it's not impossible at all than some people of Italian origin (especially from the south) could pass for Indigenous.
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Old 11-03-2023, 05:10 PM
 
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Who remembers Chief Dan George?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Dan_George
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Old 11-03-2023, 05:42 PM
 
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I assumed Buffy was more well known in Canada. Here in the U.S you never hear of her. Maybe some of the more hardcore Folk music listeners know her here in the U.S.

PBS had her documentary "Carry It On" listed for re-airing. They showed another documentary instead. I wonder if it was related to this current controversy?
I remember her from when I was very young. I had older sisters, perhaps that is why. I do remember reading about her as an indigenous musicisn, except we said "Indian" back then.
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Old 11-03-2023, 05:43 PM
 
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Who remembers Chief Dan George?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Dan_George
I had never heard of him until the Canadian S.O. told me of him.
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Old 11-03-2023, 06:28 PM
 
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Here's some tweets by someone who found some 2020 Facebook postings by Buffy's son Cody talking about Buffy's background.

https://twitter.com/Altavistagoogle/...57641651175710
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Old 11-04-2023, 12:23 AM
 
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The outrage isn't based on how popular her music is but that she lied about her ancestry.
Fair enough. My point is, that most Canadians of my acquaintance don't see her as Indigenous, but they do see her as a folk singer. And nothing but. No different from Joni Mitchell or Judy Collins, for example.

Seriously, to my friends and colleagues from my radio days, she was just a folk singer. With a few records, but nothing at the top of the charts. To be honest, we never knew that she was Indigenous--and if we had, it wouldn't have mattered. She made some mediocre recordings, got a couple of mediocre chart positions, and joined the mediocre, mostly forgotten, group of Canadian musicians who rode that first wave of Cancon in the early 1970s.

That's how I know her--as a musician. Not as anybody Indigenous. I'd suggest that most Canadians who remember her music from fifty years ago think of her in that way: "Buffy Ste. Marie is Indigenous? Who knew?"
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Old 11-04-2023, 06:20 AM
 
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I don't think that's true. She was probably the most famous and visible Indigenous artist in Canada in my youth.
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Old 11-04-2023, 08:56 AM
 
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She was very famous in my day too, both as an indigenous activist and as a singer.
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