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Old 02-13-2024, 12:13 PM
 
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So it seems a lot of Super Bowl watchers in Canada are up in arms now about VRBO using Newfoundland's traditional song I'se the B'y to make a mockery of Newfoundland and non-VRBO accommodations. I'm inclined to agree about it being condescending and thoughtless. Particularly taking into consideration the hundreds of travellers whose planes were re-routed to Newfoundland and other airports in Canada on the event of 9/11 and were recipents of the hospitality of Canadians who took them into their homes and fed and sheltered them.

What do you think of VRBO making that commercial for the Super Bowl?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-bowl-ad.html

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Old 02-13-2024, 01:18 PM
 
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Who made the commercial? What I want to know is how they even knew about the song? It's not really a well known song outside of Canada. Most people that hear it would not be able to identify or link the song to Newfounland. I am willing to bet the add was made by a Canadian.
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:46 PM
 
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Who made the commercial? What I want to know is how they even knew about the song? It's not really a well known song outside of Canada. Most people that hear it would not be able to identify or link the song to Newfounland. I am willing to bet the add was made by a Canadian.
I'se the B'y is an old traditional classic Newfoundland celtic sea-shanty/song well known for generations in many Celtic and fishing nations as well as in Canada. Great Big Sea (the Canadian band that produced and owns the copyright to that commercial's version) produced their version around 30 years ago and immortalized it again. I think there are a lot more people familiar with it than you might think, particularly older generations than your own, that would associate it with Newfoundland.

The commercial was made by Expedia Group. VRBO is the vacation rental division within Expedia Group which is the world's travel platform, an American owned and operated online marketplace for vacation rentals. They are headquartered in Austin, Texas.

They'd have had to get permission to use a copyrighted song and I doubt Great Big Sea would have given permission if they'd known what the condescending content of that commercial was going to be. If they were even asked for permission to use it.

Below are the lyrics to the song and to a large extent the content of the commercial is a reflection of the jocular meanings of the lyrics (i.e. maggoty fish or dancing up to the knees in gravel for example). NFLD's government is demanding that the song be removed from the degrading commercial which puts Newfoundland in such very bad light.

Lyrics https://genius.com/Great-big-sea-ise-the-by-lyrics

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Old 02-13-2024, 08:59 PM
 
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It's not an original Great Big Sea song. It existed long before that group was formed. As a traditional folk song it has been out of copyright for a very long time.
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Old 02-13-2024, 10:42 PM
 
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Poor Newfoundland. It seems like they are always getting some kind of bad publicity.

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Old 02-13-2024, 11:15 PM
 
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It's not an original Great Big Sea song. It existed long before that group was formed. As a traditional folk song it has been out of copyright for a very long time.
I know that, that's why I said it's a few generations old and is a traditional classic. But I'se the B'y has its origin in Newfoundland and the band Great Big Sea, a Newfoundland band, did copyright their own rendition of the song in 1993 and their rendition is the rendition used in the commercial. It's a Canadian Hall of Fame song.

Which is all beside the point. The point is Expedia Group's use of a well known Newfoundland traditional song in their VRBO commercial, this song rendition in particular, puts Newfoundland in particular and Canada in general and several other Celtic and/or maritime fishing localities in a bad light. It was a dirty stunt. And a lot of people are not happy about it, myself included.

I don't believe Expedia Group should be defended for it by Canadians and I think Expedia Group should remove that song from the commercial if they want to keep on running the commercial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27s_the_B%27y

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Old 02-14-2024, 03:02 AM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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The music doesn’t fit well with the commercial. I’m not a Newfoundlander, but I’m not sure what is offensive about it. Just seemed like an odd choice. I’d imagine the Banana Boat song made famous by Harry Belafonte has been used in commercials before, seems like a similar folk/work sokg
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Old 02-14-2024, 03:45 AM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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The music doesn’t fit well with the commercial. I’m not a Newfoundlander, but I’m not sure what is offensive about it. Just seemed like an odd choice. I’d imagine the Banana Boat song made famous by Harry Belafonte has been used in commercials before, seems like a similar folk/work sokg
It makes Newfoundlanders look like idiots, basically.

It's a traditional folk song. Newfoundlanders can rightly be proud of it--it is theirs--but it is not reflective of the Newfoundland of today. I've been there in the last number of years: there are buildings with elevators, not everybody fishes, it has Canadian banks, it has a few international airports, transit systems, and so much else that you might expect to see in any Canadian city and province. Yeah, this seems silly, but it needs to be said. Expecting Newfoundlanders to speak like the song is like expecting the sun to come up in the west: it ain't gonna happen.

It is fun to go out on a night in, say, St.John's and get screeched in, and enjoy the music, and so on. That's normal Newfoundland fare. What is not right is to expect that your hosts at those bars and pubs and so on will say, "Well, I'se the b'y" and similar. Do some speak like that? Yes. Are they idiots? Definitely not. They're putting on an act for the tourists. Most Newfoundlanders of my acquaintance would not be out of place in Vancouver, Calgary, or Toronto, based on how they speak.

Traditional folk music is an important part of any culture. I've played Newfoundland/Atlantic/Appalachian/Irish/Scottish/English/Australian for years. Spoons, of course, but also penny whistle, recorder, flute, and piano. I have played in Newfoundland, on stage, with the Barra McNeils and Great Big Sea actually. There's a wonderful musical tradition there--but you don't make fun of it. You don't dare.

Better to just go with the fun that Great Big Sea presents. Traditional, yet modern. And as a spoons player who has played with them--hard to keep up with. Phew, they give me a workout!
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Old 02-14-2024, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I've watched it twice now.

The first time I was offended, but the second time less so, because I think the agency was just ignorant or lazy and wasn't intentionally making fun of Newfoundlanders. Although I understand why it's seen that way.

I wouldn't have made the ad in the same way, since as a Canadian I know how much that song is tied to a particular place, and it's history.

The ad in a clumsy way is showing us what could happen if you don't use VRBO. You may end up in a rental that is less than you bargained for. At the end, they are in a nicer place, and the ad doesn't suggest they had to leave the area ( Newfoundland ) to find it.

The irony, and I'm sure a lot of VRBO customers might agree, is that even VRBO properties can be less than you bargained for.
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Old 02-17-2024, 07:43 AM
 
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It makes Newfoundlanders look like idiots, basically.

It's a traditional folk song. Newfoundlanders can rightly be proud of it--it is theirs--but it is not reflective of the Newfoundland of today. I've been there in the last number of years: there are buildings with elevators, not everybody fishes, it has Canadian banks, it has a few international airports, transit systems, and so much else that you might expect to see in any Canadian city and province. Yeah, this seems silly, but it needs to be said. Expecting Newfoundlanders to speak like the song is like expecting the sun to come up in the west: it ain't gonna happen.

It is fun to go out on a night in, say, St.John's and get screeched in, and enjoy the music, and so on. That's normal Newfoundland fare. What is not right is to expect that your hosts at those bars and pubs and so on will say, "Well, I'se the b'y" and similar. Do some speak like that? Yes. Are they idiots? Definitely not. They're putting on an act for the tourists. Most Newfoundlanders of my acquaintance would not be out of place in Vancouver, Calgary, or Toronto, based on how they speak.

Traditional folk music is an important part of any culture. I've played Newfoundland/Atlantic/Appalachian/Irish/Scottish/English/Australian for years. Spoons, of course, but also penny whistle, recorder, flute, and piano. I have played in Newfoundland, on stage, with the Barra McNeils and Great Big Sea actually. There's a wonderful musical tradition there--but you don't make fun of it. You don't dare.

Better to just go with the fun that Great Big Sea presents. Traditional, yet modern. And as a spoons player who has played with them--hard to keep up with. Phew, they give me a workout!
You’se the b’y that plays the spoons?
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