advice on Canada

[smp2010]

Canada has longer lines at all their government services and they create more government to oversee all of that, and the way they pay for all of that? By overtaxing their people. They even add taxes and then create government positions to oversee the collection of that particular tax. With a shrinking populace you would think they would decrease the government, not in Canada. They see it more fitting to add additional taxes and more government.
The free healthcare is not free. The system was a utopian idea back when it was brought in, but has suffered from abuse and is antiquated now. The wait times are horrible. The servies limited. The costa re less than it is here in the USA, but if you were to get the kind of service I receive here in the US you would have to pay big dollars to a private agency there, not sure if they even allow that yet. The lack of large centers and vast space between the ones they do have equate to poor quality healthcare in regions. Again this is the first thing many Americans ask me about Canada, I have little good to say about Canadian style healthcare. Michael Moore would not agree with me, but then again he is a standard fat unhealthy American from Michigan who made millions on misleading people.

The opportunities in Canada would seem miniscule for most Americans, unless you were say a worm farmer from North Dakota. The general social atmosphere is about as uplifting as England. The future is bleak for future generations.
Again the wages in Canada are similar as the American counterpart careers, sometimes higher but don't get excited, the higher taxes will eat that up. If you make 30.00 and hour is the USA, with the cost of living and lower taxes you would need to make closer to 45.00 to 50.00 per hour in Canada to compensate. My job here in the USA pays about 35 percent higher than it did in Canada and coupled with the lower taxes and lower cost of living I make out a lot better, I equate that to a lifestyle where I work less and spend more time with my family. And that again is something of a luxury in Canada. Children are expensive and if you overtax your population without creating incentives to have children you will have a lower birth rate, of which they do. And to compensate for that? They bring in immigrants from mostly impoverished nations that use the tax funded government services at a higher rate than its indigenous population. A right mess it is there...
Stay in America, visit it to get the best of it. Living there ruins any love you will have for it. I do say most of the people are truly great (even if they do say aboot) but are sadly beaten down by their own government.

[netprophet]

Originally Posted by ZX14TJ

...... Media companies work very hard to make sure new content meets the demands of consumers.

.....Fat chance. They just want to dummy us down with junk stories that are repetitive. If it wasn't for PBS and BBC - and the internet - we wouldn't know what the heck is goin' on! Walter Cronkite (plus many others) have the same opinion of this "info-tainment" we're now receiving!

[clarke.beatrice]

Originally Posted by Galloway

No, stay away from this country. Move to the US as quickly as possible.

i was considering to move there as close as next year, do you or have you lived there and if so, can you give me a little advice on why i should or shoud not i would greatly appriciate it moving to canada is a very big step for me and my fiance right now so please let me know thanks

[clarke.beatrice]

Originally Posted by smp2010

Canada has longer lines at all their government services and they create more government to oversee all of that, and the way they pay for all of that? By overtaxing their people. They even add taxes and then create government positions to oversee the collection of that particular tax. With a shrinking populace you would think they would decrease the government, not in Canada. They see it more fitting to add additional taxes and more government.
The free healthcare is not free. The system was a utopian idea back when it was brought in, but has suffered from abuse and is antiquated now. The wait times are horrible. The servies limited. The costa re less than it is here in the USA, but if you were to get the kind of service I receive here in the US you would have to pay big dollars to a private agency there, not sure if they even allow that yet. The lack of large centers and vast space between the ones they do have equate to poor quality healthcare in regions. Again this is the first thing many Americans ask me about Canada, I have little good to say about Canadian style healthcare. Michael Moore would not agree with me, but then again he is a standard fat unhealthy American from Michigan who made millions on misleading people.

The opportunities in Canada would seem miniscule for most Americans, unless you were say a worm farmer from North Dakota. The general social atmosphere is about as uplifting as England. The future is bleak for future generations.
Again the wages in Canada are similar as the American counterpart careers, sometimes higher but don't get excited, the higher taxes will eat that up. If you make 30.00 and hour is the USA, with the cost of living and lower taxes you would need to make closer to 45.00 to 50.00 per hour in Canada to compensate. My job here in the USA pays about 35 percent higher than it did in Canada and coupled with the lower taxes and lower cost of living I make out a lot better, I equate that to a lifestyle where I work less and spend more time with my family. And that again is something of a luxury in Canada. Children are expensive and if you overtax your population without creating incentives to have children you will have a lower birth rate, of which they do. And to compensate for that? They bring in immigrants from mostly impoverished nations that use the tax funded government services at a higher rate than its indigenous population. A right mess it is there...
Stay in America, visit it to get the best of it. Living there ruins any love you will have for it. I do say most of the people are truly great (even if they do say aboot) but are sadly beaten down by their own government.

the reason iam asking is because me and my fiance are homless now in new york city, we were once average working people and we lost our home due to the price increases in new york city and now we have to live ina shelter and wait to be placed in a permanet shelter to obtain housing. we have been doing some reasearch and we dont see canada how you do,everyone is entitled to thier own right and i respect your opinion, but i still thing that canada will be a better place than the us because of the qualitly of live they say they have. new york city in my opnion is to concerned about the quanity of life and dont really care about the humanistic side of people so we are leaving for canada next year and we will make the best out of it. iam quite sure its better than here in the big rotten apple!!!!!

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by clarke.beatrice

the reason iam asking is because me and my fiance are homless now in new york city, we were once average working people and we lost our home due to the price increases in new york city and now we have to live ina shelter and wait to be placed in a permanet shelter to obtain housing. we have been doing some reasearch and we dont see canada how you do,everyone is entitled to thier own right and i respect your opinion, but i still thing that canada will be a better place than the us because of the qualitly of live they say they have. new york city in my opnion is to concerned about the quanity of life and dont really care about the humanistic side of people so we are leaving for canada next year and we will make the best out of it. iam quite sure its better than here in the big rotten apple!!!!!

From what I know of Canada,they look at non-working people as somewhat of a 'risk' to their economy. Heck I've been working all my life but it's even hard for me to get into Canada because I'm not a 'professional' anymore... unless they hire 'professional' clerical or retail workers
As for prices,Canada can be almost as expensive as New York City.
I figured if I even went homeless I would just trek down to the Mississippi river and live in one of those communes

[Galloway]

Originally Posted by clarke.beatrice

i was considering to move there as close as next year, do you or have you lived there and if so, can you give me a little advice on why i should or shoud not i would greatly appriciate it moving to canada is a very big step for me and my fiance right now so please let me know thanks

The answer why not to move here is basically this: Posted by smp2010

Canada has longer lines at all their government services and they create more government to oversee all of that, and the way they pay for all of that? By overtaxing their people. They even add taxes and then create government positions to oversee the collection of that particular tax. With a shrinking populace you would think they would decrease the government, not in Canada. They see it more fitting to add additional taxes and more government.
The free healthcare is not free. The system was a utopian idea back when it was brought in, but has suffered from abuse and is antiquated now. The wait times are horrible. The servies limited. The costa re less than it is here in the USA, but if you were to get the kind of service I receive here in the US you would have to pay big dollars to a private agency there, not sure if they even allow that yet. The lack of large centers and vast space between the ones they do have equate to poor quality healthcare in regions. Again this is the first thing many Americans ask me about Canada, I have little good to say about Canadian style healthcare. Michael Moore would not agree with me, but then again he is a standard fat unhealthy American from Michigan who made millions on misleading people.

The opportunities in Canada would seem miniscule for most Americans, unless you were say a worm farmer from North Dakota. The general social atmosphere is about as uplifting as England. The future is bleak for future generations.
Again the wages in Canada are similar as the American counterpart careers, sometimes higher but don't get excited, the higher taxes will eat that up. If you make 30.00 and hour is the USA, with the cost of living and lower taxes you would need to make closer to 45.00 to 50.00 per hour in Canada to compensate. My job here in the USA pays about 35 percent higher than it did in Canada and coupled with the lower taxes and lower cost of living I make out a lot better, I equate that to a lifestyle where I work less and spend more time with my family. And that again is something of a luxury in Canada. Children are expensive and if you overtax your population without creating incentives to have children you will have a lower birth rate, of which they do. And to compensate for that? They bring in immigrants from mostly impoverished nations that use the tax funded government services at a higher rate than its indigenous population. A right mess it is there...
Stay in America, visit it to get the best of it. Living there ruins any love you will have for it. I do say most of the people are truly great (even if they do say aboot) but are sadly beaten down by their own government

The taxes are too high, immigrants from poor country's use government services at a very high rate therefore increasing taxes. The politicians are too liberal, the weather is bad, America has more oppurtunities.

[jamesroop]

Originally Posted by Galloway

In my opinion being a multicultural country is bad because it brings out racism. For example my neighbourhood is being overrun by chinese, arabs, and persians. Its so bad that whites in my neighbourhood are now a minority. I can't tell you how many stares and racial remarks Iv'e had thrown at me for being white. Canada is being overrun by immigrants and they are pushing the white people out. My dream is to move to the US, somewhere maybe in Montana or Seattle where white people are not a minority. I have always believed that people should live with their own race, so all this multiculturalism in Canada doesnt do it for me.

O and by the way, healtchcare is not free you pay for it with the extremely high taxes.

What area(s) of Canada do people with your mentality live? I ask this because I really would not like to settle in a racist/anti-immigrant environment. I presently live and work in areas that have a variety of races and ethnicities that get along pretty well since they realize everyone has a part to play in societal development.
Thanks.

[ZX14TJ]

Originally Posted by jamesroop

What area(s) of Canada do people with your mentality live? I ask this because I really would not like to settle in a racist/anti-immigrant environment.

This can be found in any city in Canada. Truthfully, there are racist and/or people with anti-immigrant beliefs in every city in the world. You can't run from those sorts of people.

[Galloway]

Originally Posted by jamesroop

What area(s) of Canada do people with your mentality live? I ask this because I really would not like to settle in a racist/anti-immigrant environment. I presently live and work in areas that have a variety of races and ethnicities that get along pretty well since they realize everyone has a part to play in societal development.
Thanks.

Are you an immigrant? if so then try Toronto, it will be like heaven on earth. The amount of free government services that you will recieve will be breathtaking.

[Cornerguy1]

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