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03-01-2007, 12:12 PM
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Teaching in canada
I'm a senior in highschool going to college next fall to become a teacher I wanted to know are there alot of teaching jobs in canada I'm becoming a elementary teacher and wanted to live in canada 
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03-01-2007, 01:32 PM
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I'm a senior in highschool going to college next fall to become a teacher I wanted to know are there alot of teaching jobs in canada I'm becoming a elementary teacher and wanted to live in canada 
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My understanding is that the teaching certification is different from the US and Canada. Also, you would probably run into some challenges in getting authorization to live in Canada to teach as our immigration guidelines are similar to that of the US. I would say to follow your interests and pursue teaching, but to be aware that it's not likely going to help you immigrate to Canada or get access to teaching here. One option would be to attend College/University in Canada which would probably give you more access or experience to teach north of the border, but you'd want to be sure that the certification is recognized in your native Florida so that when you returned you would be employable. Talk to your high school councilors and see if they have any information. I have a few friends in BC and Nova Scotia that teach, and I know that they all had finished degrees before pursuing education degrees so they could teach.
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03-04-2007, 09:49 PM
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I'm a senior in highschool going to college next fall to become a teacher I wanted to know are there alot of teaching jobs in canada I'm becoming a elementary teacher and wanted to live in canada 
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As most americans know, there is no school in Canada nor are there teachers. Canadians live in igloos, travel by dog sled to trade their animal pelts for food at the local country store. And of course, we all speak French ! We have snow all year round, and no one works in the winter as it is too cold to leave your igloo or cabin in the woods.
And if there are any schools I'm sure they are one room school houses.  .
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03-05-2007, 01:34 PM
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As most americans know, there is no school in Canada nor are there teachers. Canadians live in igloos, travel by dog sled to trade their animal pelts for food at the local country store. And of course, we all speak French ! We have snow all year round, and no one works in the winter as it is too cold to leave your igloo or cabin in the woods.
And if there are any schools I'm sure they are one room school houses.  .
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They also pay an average of 30% more for cellphone plans, generally earn less money, pay higher taxes, and a typical Canadian has 30% less purchasing power than an average American.
If I were you, I'd forget Canada and go where the bucks are big! Alaska! You can always drive through Canada on the way from the U.S. to the U.S. and admire all the dog sleds and igloos 'till you reach civilization again  . C'est la Vie! 
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03-05-2007, 01:38 PM
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They also pay an average of 30% more for cellphone plans, generally earn less money, pay higher taxes, and a typical Canadian has 30% less purchasing power than an average American.
If I were you, I'd forget Canada and go where the bucks are big! Alaska! You can always drive through Canada on the way from the U.S. to the U.S. and admire all the dog sleds and igloos 'till you reach civilization again  . C'est la Vie! 
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...an appropriate response, 'eh ! Without turning this into a mirror of any of the number of tired Canada/Us comparison threads, I gotta say that given your circumstances, the Alaska angle is a great idea. No problematic immigration issues and a comparable environment. A bit isolated (even by hoser standards), but absolutely gorgeous environment. Ca Sufi 
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03-05-2007, 04:14 PM
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They also pay an average of 30% more for cellphone plans, generally earn less money, pay higher taxes, and a typical Canadian has 30% less purchasing power than an average American.
If I were you, I'd forget Canada and go where the bucks are big! Alaska! You can always drive through Canada on the way from the U.S. to the U.S. and admire all the dog sleds and igloos 'till you reach civilization again  . C'est la Vie! 
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Probably... But Alberta is quite different; tons of oil money out there!
If you don't mind wild temperature extremes (mostly on the cold side) you might like Alberta. They're just north of western Montana. They have the Rocky Mountains in the west, no provincial income tax and no provincial sales tax.
For any given annual income amount, an Albertan would get to keep close to 20% more of their income than Canadians from other provinces.
As far as openings for new teachers, it'd vary depending on the region. It would be tough finding work in the Toronto area; more competition since it seems "everyone" wants to be here.
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03-05-2007, 04:31 PM
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Probably... But Alberta is quite different; tons of oil money out there!
If you don't mind wild temperature extremes (mostly on the cold side) you might like Alberta. They're just north of western Montana. They have the Rocky Mountains in the west, no provincial income tax and no provincial sales tax.
For any given annual income amount, an Albertan would get to keep close to 20% more of their income than Canadians from other provinces.
As far as openings for new teachers, it'd vary depending on the region. It would be tough finding work in the Toronto area; more competition since it seems "everyone" wants to be here.
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Alberta is definitely an exception to the Canadian rule, you're right! Those folks have their act together in a big way. I agree 
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03-05-2007, 05:37 PM
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less money
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They also pay an average of 30% more for cellphone plans, generally earn less money, pay higher taxes, and a typical Canadian has 30% less purchasing power than an average American.
If I were you, I'd forget Canada and go where the bucks are big! Alaska! You can always drive through Canada on the way from the U.S. to the U.S. and admire all the dog sleds and igloos 'till you reach civilization again  . C'est la Vie! 
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How cute, so Canadians make less money. In 1992 I was living in Ontario , making almost 16.00 an hour, I moved down to Texas the latter part of 92 , got a job doing the same thing and started out at 8.49 an hour. Higher taxes , yup, that's true,everyone has health care, yup that's true too. Don't have to worry about what you'll do if you lose the healthcare provided through your job.
It wasn't until I moved here that I realized that Americans don't like Canadians, they tend to look down their noses at Canadians and Canada in general. It's too bad, because if my husband didn't want to be here, he's a born and bred Texan, I'd be happy to go back to my neutral country , and travel almost anywhere else on vacation because except for the States, other countries DO like Canadians .
What is sad is I was happy about moving to Texas, but that didn't last. Wish someone could tell me why Canadians aren't liked. I'm a hell of a lot of fun, and was the entertainment at work for years, but that's all they wanted me for, was to give them a laugh.
I do agree, don't stop in Canada , go to Alaska, the money is good and you won't have to put up with living in a different country. Alaska is beautiful, and you can learn to adapt to the cold . Alberta is in the spot light right now, but that could change in a heart beat, atleast in Alaska,you know where you stand.
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03-05-2007, 07:27 PM
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How cute, so Canadians make less money. In 1992 I was living in Ontario , making almost 16.00 an hour, I moved down to Texas the latter part of 92 , got a job doing the same thing and started out at 8.49 an hour. Higher taxes , yup, that's true,everyone has health care, yup that's true too. Don't have to worry about what you'll do if you lose the healthcare provided through your job.
It wasn't until I moved here that I realized that Americans don't like Canadians, they tend to look down their noses at Canadians and Canada in general. It's too bad, because if my husband didn't want to be here, he's a born and bred Texan, I'd be happy to go back to my neutral country , and travel almost anywhere else on vacation because except for the States, other countries DO like Canadians .
What is sad is I was happy about moving to Texas, but that didn't last. Wish someone could tell me why Canadians aren't liked. I'm a hell of a lot of fun, and was the entertainment at work for years, but that's all they wanted me for, was to give them a laugh.
I do agree, don't stop in Canada , go to Alaska, the money is good and you won't have to put up with living in a different country. Alaska is beautiful, and you can learn to adapt to the cold . Alberta is in the spot light right now, but that could change in a heart beat, atleast in Alaska,you know where you stand.
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Jeepers. Untwist those panties! Americans don't dislike Canada, they like it more than any other country besides America in the world, even more than Britain or Australia. They consider it unimportant, (don't feel badly..they consider Britain and Australia unimportant as well) but they like it. The only "friend" the U.S. considers important is Israel. This is all from a survey of American attitudes toward 20 world nations. (FYI, the criteria for important/unimportant was how happenings in those countries were perceived to affect the U.S. if at all. Unimportant countries (friend and foe) were considered uninfluential on the American domestic front. Important countries both friend and foe were considered important because what happens there is also perceived by Americans to affect America). China for instance is considered a foe (which surprised me), but it's also considered important by Americans. (you can see the Gallup Poll in this forum under General U.S./Politics and Other Controversies, then the thread is titled Gallup Poll U.S. attitudes Geopolitics)
As for healthcare, that's another topic under this Canada canopy and there seems to be strong opinion both for and against over what each country's strengths are. You can look at that thread yourself and view the perceived pros and cons. I will say however that you can take a peek at a Canadian report on TheTyee.ca which was published 11/02/06 which states that :" A new study from the Canadian Policy Research Networks (CPRN) reveals that a large number of Canadians lack appropriate and adequate access to the health care services the rest of us take for granted. Fully one third of the population lives on the health care margins. These are people living literally beyond the reach of mainstream medical care: in rural, remote and northern communities. Or they are socially out of reach: the homeless, recent immigrants, the frail elderly or Aboriginal Peoples." The estimated number of uninsured Americans is 40,000,000, or approximately 13% of the American population and they also have access to Quik Care and other facilities in many cases. I'm not saying the U.S. is better, I'm saying that the problem exists in Canada as well and is actually greater in some measures.
As for GDP and Purchasing Power Parity, there is no comparison. The USA far outstrips Canada in general, as do most European nations. Sure, right now a burger flipper in Calgary can make fantastic hourlies whereas a burger flipper in Plano, Texas might make $6.50/hour. There's a boom going on in Alberta and a tremendous labor shortage. If I were a Canadian, I'd have hauled a$$ to Alberta five years ago and taken advantage of it. If I were a Canadian now, I'd still go to Alberta and room with however many people it took to afford a small apartment in a now outrageously priced apartment and housing market and take advantage of their high wages, low taxes and steady work opportunities and SAVE money! That's why I admire Alberta. They WORK and use common sense economically.
If you look at the OECD Report for 2005 labeled "Going For Growth", it puts the USA at #3 in GDP income at $41,800 with only Luxembourg and Norway above it.
Canada comes in at #14 after quite a few nations and territories and is most immediately preceded by Switzerland, San Marino, Iceland, Ireland, Denmark, and Austria before it gets to Canada. Canada is listed at 78.5% PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) of the U.S. with a GDP income of $32,800.
I repeat, Americans do not dislike Canada. They may not know much about it because it isn't relevant to most of us in our daily lives but that doesn't mean we don't like it or Canadians. As for other countries, I know that when I was in Jamaica, the Canadian party in the rooms near us got thrown out for excessive drunkenness and partying and tearing the rooms up. They were friendly to us, offered us joints and beers but we politely declined. It was a house with cabins attached in Montego Bay and the proprietor told us that Canadians often come down and get drunk, stay drunk, and smoke a lot of pot and destroy rooms. He preferred Americans. But that is just one experience of mine and doesn't tell the whole story. In Florida and Arizona for example, a lot of the Canadians are older, mature, and escaping the snow and many own property there. So I guess it depends on what market as to how the perceptions are made.
You can see the ignorance (not from ill intent) on the Real Housewives of Orange County for instance where that one realtor mom Jeana's oldest son invites a Miss Southern Ontario to visit Southern California and his house and he met her on the internet. She arrives, is tiny and petite, has the typical Canadian accent, and eventually Jeana is sitting with her on the couch and she and her daughter Kara are admiring Miss Canada's eyebrows when Jeana abruptly asks her: "Do you speak Canadian?". The look on that girl's face was priceless!!! Absolutely speechless, and it's clear that Jeana asked what she thought was a valid question. I laughed my butt off!
That's what you might think is rudeness and dislike. It's not. It's ignorance, but it's not sinister ignorance.
I'm sorry your Texan co-workers think you're the class clown and make you feel Americans don't like Canada. I doubt that's the case at all. Of all places, you can't expect anywhere in the U.S. to know much about Canada that doesn't actually touch the Canadian border, and even most of those states have population centers well south of it, so aren't always affected by Canada. Florida probably has a lot more exposure. And most Americans are completely unaware of how anti-American the Canadian press, parliament, and large numbers of Canadians are toward the U.S. It's not even anti-Americanism, it's hatred. You already know this if you consistently read Canadian media. I do and I read the feedback forums as well. It's an eye opener. Luckily most Americans pay so little attention to Canadian media that they don't notice and continue to see Canada in a good light. You might also be unaware that while Canadian tourism to the U.S. is soaring (and overall foreign tourist numbers have almost reached pre- 9/11 levels, American tourism to Canada is plummeting, dropping over 30% in the last ten years. If you did some research on that, the reasons why might surprise you...and no, it's not all related to new passport requirements.
I don't in general like Canadian television which I find boring when something plays here, BUT...there is an exception.. I love "Buy Me" out of Quebec where people try to sell their homes and the show centers on their trials and tribulations. Great show!
I'd get a tougher skin if I were you.
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03-06-2007, 02:25 AM
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Hatred, MoMark?
From large numbers of Canadians, the Canadian press, and Parliament?
LOL
Only if disagreement with US policies and an unwillingness to blindly follow US direction in policy matters both foreign and domestic can be regarded as "hatred". However, many choose to characterize those traits as being the actions of an autonomous country rather than a vassel state.
Strangely, when the American government and press denigrates the policies of governments whose opinions and objectives differ from their own, it is regarded as protecting Freedom rather than promoting "hatred".
There is very little hatred here, my friend, but there is also not a great deal of willingness to kiss a$$.
Perhaps it's you who needs to grow a tougher skin.
It's stunning that US administration after administration is shocked to find that other world nations do not automatically fall into lockstep with whatever flavour of the month policy the United States has decided to pursue. The realization is almost always followed by a bombastic US reaction based on the theory that what is good for the United States must be good for the world and that any who beg to differ must be promoting anti-Americanism.
That attitude is certainly reflected in your reference to a study which has Americans feeling no countries other than Israel are important. US ignorance of the world beyond its borders is legendary.
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That's why I admire Alberta. They WORK and use common sense economically.
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I'm sure you feel you're highly informed about the Canadian condition due to obtaining some input from Canadian news sources, but it really is rather amusing that a person who seemingly admires the conservative economic approach of Alberta would choose to use a study generated by CPRN to back a premise.
CPRN, you see, is a "think tank" with an extremely liberal social bent extending into areas like advocating universal child care, greater social spending for families, etc. For your amusement, here is the CPRN mission statement:
CPRN's mission is to create knowledge and lead public dialogue and debate on social and economic issues important to the well-being of Canadians. Our goal is to help make Canada a more just, prosperous, and caring society.
Alberta has the good fortune to have vast reserves of oil at a time when the petroleum industry is a booming economic force. No disrespect intended to the good people of Alberta, but the current prosperity in Wild Rose country has far more to do with geology than deliberate planning.
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Luckily most Americans pay so little attention to Canadian media that they don't notice and continue to see Canada in a good light......American tourism to Canada is plummeting,
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And the inference is if Canada doesn't smarten up and get with the US program, Americans will stay home?
If Americans are going to only travel to areas of the world in which they are unconditionally greeted as purveyors of all that is Right and Just, then the US domestic tourism market is in for a huge boost.
Perhaps to comment from a more informed perspective, one needs to have lived in both countries and experienced both cultures.
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