Finally, Proof That Cancer is a Man-Made Disease (doctor, survival, treatment)
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The reality is no matter what some people do, they will or will not get cancer.
All my grandparents all lived to ripe old ages. They ate plenty of red meats, my granddad drank like a fish for a long time, he smoked, and used chewing tobacco. Want to know what he died of? Old freaking age at 94 years old. 3 of 4 of my grandparents lived to be 90 plus. They presented plenty of the risk factors you who tout alternative medicines and nutrition only.
Now take me for an example. Non smoker, non drinker had no risk factors and I managed to get cancer.
Your logic is severely flawed. Again diet and weight are not the same as cancer. Sit around drink beer and eat copious amounts of food that bad for you, then yes you will die. Last time I checked we are going going to die. You want to accelerate it feel free.
No matter what some people do they will get cancer. Good clean living doesn't prevent anything.
yah and a lot can happen in 3 years (3 year old with cancer). as stated above, there are many unknown factors. i was fed formula for the first 6 months. why? cause the docs told my parents that was best. well... after 6 months of throwing up and suffering from chronic sickness (they thought I was going to die, literally), a different doc told my mom to breast feed. problem solved immediately.
regardless of people's 'feelings' (which are important), the truth is the truth. just because someone wouldn't want to hear that certain factors could have been a major contributor to their 4 year old child's lukemia, doesn't mean that the entire notion is baseless and the child has definitely just caught "bad luck". it's amazing complex, and not fully understood even by the brightest minds in the world. it further complicates things that everyone has a different opinion of what 'common sensical thinking' is. hence you have such strongly opposing viewpoints here.
rather than go back and forth, i think we all agree that good points have been made to support the idea that many steps can be taken to give yourself the maximum protection that you are capable of, but in the end, some other factors may come into play that catch you by surprise. besides all that, you might get hit by a mac truck anyway, and unless you are like will smith from hancock, your health won't matter much.
as for me, i will stick with doing all i can with what i have been given. i choose not to allow a victim mentality to grip my future.
And if any doctors decline treatment for cancer, it may be those for which available treatments do not produce good results. Doctors are probably less likely to agree to things which do not produce meaningful increase in quality or quantity of life. I cannot envision a doctor declining treatment for a cancer with an excellent prognosis.
With prostate cancer, many urologists recommend surgery. My husband chose another treatment. And guess who several of the patients were, urologists. They said they did not want to undergo surgery due to the side affects. Not even the nerve sparing or robotic surgeries.
Many patients were told surgery would cure them, that's why they chose it. Several patients were now being treated as my husband as surgery failed and did not remove all cancer.
I've heard many stories of doctors not choosing what they recommend for their patients.
With prostate cancer, many urologists recommend surgery. My husband chose another treatment. And guess who several of the patients were, urologists. They said they did not want to undergo surgery due to the side affects. Not even the nerve sparing or robotic surgeries.
Many patients were told surgery would cure them, that's why they chose it. Several patients were now being treated as my husband as surgery failed and did not remove all cancer.
I've heard many stories of doctors not choosing what they recommend for their patients.
With prostate cancer, many urologists recommend surgery. My husband chose another treatment. And guess who several of the patients were, urologists. They said they did not want to undergo surgery due to the side affects. Not even the nerve sparing or robotic surgeries.
Many patients were told surgery would cure them, that's why they chose it. Several patients were now being treated as my husband as surgery failed and did not remove all cancer.
I've heard many stories of doctors not choosing what they recommend for their patients.
But an alternative treatment is different from NO treatment at all. To one man the sexual side effects of surgery may outweigh the benefits, while to another it would be not as important. I would hope that the urologists you met were presenting all the alternatives to their own patients.
We don't know what the children were exposed to in the womb or if the breast milk they drank was polluted by toxins from the environment (actually we do know breast milk is polluted by toxins but I don't have the research to cite right here) . . . .we don't know what chemicals infant formula or baby foods has in them (I don't know, but it would be simple to find out), we don't know about radon in the home, or exposure to radiation or other environmental pollutants, including water . . .there are just too many variables.
But to knowingly not want to reduce risk when you can is just madness, from my perspective. When you know better, you do better, you live cleaner . . .
"When you know better, you do better, you live cleaner"... AND YOU STILL DIE....AND YOU STILL DEVELOP CANCER
So now you are blaming the parents for the child's cancer? Wonderful
We don't know what causes most childhood cancers...but considering how LONG it takes to develop cancer from environmental exposures (typically decades) it is highly unlikely that it has ANYTHING to do with breast milk...
You also make many claims without ANY research to back it up....
Most doctors(says you) avoid mainstream cancer treatment...you "read it somewhere"...NOT TRUE
Breast milk is polluted by toxins(says you) but you provide no evidence to back this up....PROVE IT
But an alternative treatment is different from NO treatment at all. To one man the sexual side effects of surgery may outweigh the benefits, while to another it would be not as important. I would hope that the urologists you met were presenting all the alternatives to their own patients.
It is unfortunate, but many urologists do not present all the alternatives. My husband thought he would first go to the best teaching hospital in our area to see a urologist who was considered top notch in the field. Surgery was his recommendation. He even laughed about how quick he can do it compared to other doctors, like it was a game. He mentioned another course of treatment, but said the outcome was best with surgery. Our research did not confirm this.
During the two months of treatment my husband had, most of the other patients stated the same thing. They were not told of all treatments. Information was difficult to get on anything other than surgery or seeds.
You are correct that each man must weigh what is important to him. Each must decide the best treatment for himself. That is why your doctor should be able to discuss all treatments.
bluedevilz, feel free to exit this conversation at any time. you are out of line.
Right back at ya....
You and others want to "blame the victim"...and "i" am out of line...
Get a clue or exit the conversation
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