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Unread 05-31-2012, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I wish I could find a good alternative to deodorant.
Anti-perspirants are the bad ones for a similar reason wearing a tight bra for too many hours would be, the tight bra restricts lymph flow which is where toxins removed from our tissues go, and anti-perspirants block the natural pathway of removal of such toxins via perspiration, so in our zeal of being "fashionable" and keeping good hygiene we can get carried away and hinder the natural functions of our body and there's always consequences for that.

For many years I've rarely used anti-perspirants at all, for a long time now I've been using milk of magnesia (I get an off-brand at a dollar store or Walmart), I add a few drops of an antibacterial essential oil (or a combination of 2 or more) like lavender, lemon, tea tree oil, peppermint, etc. I recently added a small amount of virgin coconut oil, which is also antibacterial and antifungal, and it works even better and can be used on any part of the body without causing irritation even right after shaving.

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Unread 05-31-2012, 03:34 AM
 
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The main thing--aside from getting the correct size--is avoiding those bras with the metal stays in them. If I find a pretty bra with the stays, I remove the stays. I wear a soft cup, front opening, but pretty lace and no stays. And my correct size, if a bit larger. And lots of colors, with cotton panties which match in the French style.

I think that wearing garmets that hurt is prehistoric, and anti-women, anti-feminist, and not good for your body, or respectful of it. I think we do need bras, but bras which support us, not hurt is.

Painful bras, girdles, all that -- should be elminated by exercise and diet, so that packing it in with heavy fabric won't be necessary. Better to be healthy than confined. I know older professional women, when you hug them, feel hard all over---and not from exercise, but from their undergarmets. This, in my opinion, is a health problem.

In other words, this is a sociological issue, a politic issue and a feminist issue.
Good point about the underwire bras, when I worked as a temp at The Cancer Institute in W. Palm Beach, FL back in 1997 or 98 the subject came up and one of the secretaries told me that she knew of two of the doctors there told women to get rid of their underwire bras.
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Unread 05-31-2012, 06:44 AM
 
Location: midwest suburbia
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It's not about "covering" the lymph nodes but restristing the flow,

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the number of hours is also a factor, in a study women who wore a bra 12 or more hours a day had a greater risk.




A study done by whom, and published where? Did you read all the way through the link? It addresses reduced flow of toxins.

The Myth of Bras and Breast Cancer - NYTimes.com
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Unread 05-31-2012, 06:55 AM
 
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Yes, the aluminum in anti-persperants is a problem, too. I stopped using these years ago and use a French cristal body stick, instead. I used to spray on the old fashioned stuff, and then used a cream, for years. Probably not very healthy.
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Unread 05-31-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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It's not about "covering" the lymph nodes but restristing the flow, and it's a well known fact that a large number of women wear the wrong bra size, usually too small for them; the number of hours is also a factor, in a study women who wore a bra 12 or more hours a day had a greater risk.

When my daughter entered into puberty she developed fibrocystic breast disease, luckily I'd just read that "old" book so I had her take her bra when she came home from school (a habit she continues to this day) and she stopped having breast pain and just by doing that slone her breasts became much better, so I don't care who considers it a myth, to me those people are very short-sighted, to me it's just common sense: restricted lymph flow = accumulation of toxins, period!
What? How do you arrive at that conclusion? That is beyond absurd. No... Do you understand the concept of constriction? When your extremities start to tingle? As in blood is not flowing like it should... Now, I don't see how a bra would do that. Poorly fitting or otherwise. That is the only way possible your statement would be anywhere near accurate. Meaning it isn't.

Common Fears With No Evidence: Antiperspirants and Bras

Quick medical lesson: The kidney's remove most of the toxins from the body. Not sweating.

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Good point about the underwire bras, when I worked as a temp at The Cancer Institute in W. Palm Beach, FL back in 1997 or 98 the subject came up and one of the secretaries told me that she knew of two of the doctors there told women to get rid of their underwire bras.
Wait, it has been repeatedly disproved. There was a study done. The kicker: It was so flawed that it didn't even receive a peer review. you really have to bungle a paper to receive that treatment. There is no evidence at all to support your claims. (again.)
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Unread 05-31-2012, 04:50 PM
 
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SD..ah, aren't you a male? How would you know how bras feel??
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Unread 05-31-2012, 07:11 PM
 
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A study done by whom, and published where? Did you read all the way through the link? It addresses reduced flow of toxins.

The Myth of Bras and Breast Cancer - NYTimes.com
Hmm, I meant to write "restricting"...

I don't know what you mean by "all the way through the link", but if you meant going to the "Q&A" I didn't, in reality I'm not interested in seeing what they have to say about because it's NOT going to change my mind, to me it fits with the logic of how the human body works, besides, like I already mentioned it's something I've seen the benefit of with my own eyes. And the study was probably the one they refer to conducted by the researchers who wrote the book, and again, I don't care if it was not "peer reviewed, etc.", it just made sense to me and that's all that I need. For centuries humans have treated many diseases successfully without the excessive modern dependence on studies and tests, there was such a thing as common sense and general observation that was much valued even by most doctors of the previous generation, thank you. And if you ask me, I don't think we're really doing that much better, it's true people live longer now as compared to recent centuries, but we also have a lot of diseases inflicted by our environment and/or lifestyle for which doctors have no cure for so so much for science...
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Unread 05-31-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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So common sense was to bleed and cup sick people, no studies, everyone knew that worked. Interested in that treatment?

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Unread 05-31-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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So some will not use logic or use a flawed understanding of the human body and how it works. Totally dismiss science and refuse to listen to those who study the body and its workings. That sort of ignorance is beyond dangerous, and quite foolish. It also shreds any sort of credibility.
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Unread 05-31-2012, 10:43 PM
 
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So common sense was to bleed and cup sick people, no studies, everyone knew that worked. Interested in that treatment?

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Haha, very funny. Well, it actually did work on some people, because in cases on infection lowering the iron also helped kill the microbes that thrive on it.

I didn't live back in those days so I'm thinking more of when I was little and doctors actually cured more people than today, they were also not afraid to recommend vitamins and such.
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