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Old 06-04-2012, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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75% of physicians in the world refuse chemotherapy for themselves

 
Old 06-05-2012, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Biased site and completely offensive in it's lack of information. "Extremely low success rate"? Bull****.

Can someone please delete this thread? It has no place in a cancer forum with people making the RIGHT choice to pursue chemo to save their lives.
 
Old 06-05-2012, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Mostly in my head
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Sorry but it does not violate TOS.

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Old 06-05-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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I was dumb enough to follow the link. It is hardly a study, against their claims. They didn't clarify if it was a specific type, or general cancer and chemo in general. 118 doctors at one facility. Again hardly a decent sample or even a remote chance of it being a random sample of doctors or even a cross section of oncologist.

More bad information out there. As advances are being made the bad information becomes an agenda and if people are dumb enough to believe it, is a huge step backwards in the treatment of cancers of all types.

In my case the survival rate of my cancer was 95% at 5 years. Chemo was needed to make it to and past that 5 year point.
 
Old 06-05-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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My cancer is 90% curable across the board. For my stage and other factors, it's 75%.

You know what it would be without chemo? 0%. I survived 5 years with it without knowing I had it, and would have been dead within 6 months had I not immediately jumped into chemo a year ago. I'm 24 - I want 60 more years, not 6 months! And I followed many of the guidelines listed in the link (organic food, well balanced and plant heavy diet, etc etc) while my cancer grew to such a state that it was the worst that my Chief of Oncology, Harvard educated, lymphoma specialist oncologist had ever seen.

I also never got so much as a cold before I got cancer.
 
Old 06-05-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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Biased site and completely offensive in it's lack of information. "Extremely low success rate"? Bull****.

Can someone please delete this thread? It has no place in a cancer forum with people making the RIGHT choice to pursue chemo to save their lives.
For what? It was all over the internet. Nothing wrong with this. Chemo can save peoples lives. It depends on the cancer though.
 
Old 06-05-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Another interesting article about the same thing...more of an essay. But it's gone around to my colleagues and many agree:

A Doctor on How Physicians Face the End of Life - WSJ.com
 
Old 06-05-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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Another interesting article about the same thing...more of an essay. But it's gone around to my colleagues and many agree:

A Doctor on How Physicians Face the End of Life - WSJ.com
Actually a pretty decent essay. I tend to think that the disease and likely outcome plays more into the choice of treatment.

The example of pancreatic cancer, I know I wouldn't likely take treatment. When I was getting to the treatment, my physician and hospital asked about advanced directive. So I did do a advanced directive.
 
Old 06-05-2012, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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As a physician, I think timely chemo with a high chance of good outcome is a wise decision.
 
Old 06-05-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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For what? It was all over the internet. Nothing wrong with this. Chemo can save peoples lives. It depends on the cancer though.
But posting such a title in a cancer forum with people actively in treatment is cruel. I'm 10 months out of treatment and I had a complete sobbing, crying panic attack this morning when I saw this. Although I am very sorry that you lost your father, you cannot possibly understand the emotional impact of this disease. I have a scan at the end of the week and feel lumps - I am likely relapsing. Want to talk about chemo? Let's talk about chemo that is so strong that it kills your bone marrow and you need a transplant which will restart your immune system from scratch. Half of the people who go through this die. I don't want to die at 24. I also don't want to spend the last days of my life completely impoverished, alone, and sick. Do not call into question the choices that you have never had to make. It's always those who have never had to make those calls who seem so glib about spreading this "information".

It may be "all over the internet", but it takes 2 seconds of glancing at the article to see that it has no peer reviewed journal articles/studies listed. It just refers back to more crackpot natural medicine sites.

Not that I'm knocking natural medicine - but it's complimentary, not in place of modern medicine. Anyone who argues otherwise is, in my opinion, incredibly dangerous. I know a few Hodgers who went the natural route. I say that in past tense - they died. Look at Steve Jobs. He had all the money in the world and died because he was too bullheaded to use modern medicine that would have likely put him into remission. The median life expectancy for his cancer was 7 years - and considering that many of the people who got it were older, that's expected.

Today, many cancers (perhaps most) can either be cured or put into remission by the use of chemo, radiation, and surgeries. Unfortunately, pancreatic cancer is one of the few that has not been successful. But please don't put others in the uncomfortable position (one that you have never had to be in) to wonder if they made the right choice.
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