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Old 06-22-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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Let me put this another way: The fact that the body can survive just fine with relatively little glucose in the bloodstream at all indicates not that it's "preferred," but rather, that it's optional and unessential.
No it indicates that evolutionarily its the body's preferred mechanism. The body has multiple mechanism to try to maintain a stable level of glucose. And "relatively little" compared to what? Its relatively a lot compared to water or saline. Ketosis is basically occurring in body emergency situations where glucose cannot be maintained - fasting/starvation. Its a robust evolutionary back-up plan for when things are less than ideal, dietary-wise.


You can hop around on just one leg if the other is damaged - but the body evolved to work with two.
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Old 06-22-2018, 11:08 AM
 
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Interestingly, pilgrims were known in Chaucer's time to have a peculiar "sweet" smell. As they trekked across the country to visit a shrine, like Thomas a Becket's, they walked for months and barely ate. By the time they got to Canterbury their bodies were effectively eating themselves, and the associated odor particularly noticeable. Some medical historians have speculated this was due to the fact that ketosis was well underway and had been for some time.
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Old 06-22-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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Interestingly, pilgrims were known in Chaucer's time to have a peculiar "sweet" smell. As they trekked across the country to visit a shrine, like Thomas a Becket's, they walked for months and barely ate. By the time they got to Canterbury their bodies were effectively eating themselves, and the associated odor particularly noticeable. Some medical historians have speculated this was due to the fact that ketosis was well underway and had been for some time.
Now THIS is a fascinating tidbit! A friend of mine is a livestock vet. She has commented on the sweet keytone smell coming from a herd that has one seriously sick emaciated cow.
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Old 06-22-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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Now THIS is a fascinating tidbit! A friend of mine is a livestock vet. She has commented on the sweet keytone smell coming from a herd that has one seriously sick emaciated cow.

Whoa! That is interesting - I've never smelled the odor in real life.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:03 PM
 
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Been reading a lot about this since I started a low-carb diet a few years ago.

It's too bad, however, some seem to think this is a "new" link. Warburg first hypothesized the cancer-sugar link in 1924.

Scientists have discovered a new link between sugar and tumor growth
I'm reading "Tripping Over The Truth: How the Metabolic Theory of Cancer Is Overturning One of Medicine's Most Entrenched Paradigms" by Travis Christofferson

check out the reviews on Amazon - (of 392) 87% 5-star - very interesting (cancer cells feed on sugar / glucose / fermentation) - yes, it includes a lot about Otto Warburg

https://www.amazon.com/Tripping-over...40_&dpSrc=srch
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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I'm reading "Tripping Over The Truth: How the Metabolic Theory of Cancer Is Overturning One of Medicine's Most Entrenched Paradigms" by Travis Christofferson

check out the reviews on Amazon - (of 392) 87% 5-star - very interesting (cancer cells feed on sugar / glucose / fermentation) - yes, it includes a lot about Otto Warburg

https://www.amazon.com/Tripping-over...40_&dpSrc=srch
Amazon reviews are hardly the gold standard for the quality of a book. How many of those reviews were provided by friends of the author, who self published the book? We will never know.

The Ketogenic Diet in Cancer Control - The ASCO Post

"Given the absence of solid data on the merits and potential negative consequences, patients should pursue this [ketogenic] diet only via participation in a clinical trial."
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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Whoa! That is interesting - I've never smelled the odor in real life.
When my younger son was small he was sick for a few days, stopped eating and drinking, and became ketotic, with the typical odor on his breath. When he was threatened with a trip to the ER for an IV he decided maybe he could handle some Coca-Cola after all.
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