Stage IV Cancer (hot flashes, blood, heart, support group)

[stone-ground]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

I'm sorry to hear this.

The bottom line is that the cancer has spread and is not contained to an area that can be specifically removed. It has also become extensive enough to have impacted their functioning already.

To that point, even though they say it's in his lungs and liver....it is almost certainly in other places but just too small to be noticeable.

There really isn't a cure at this point, they can try various treatments for buying time once it gets this widespread but it's unlikely that they will survive for a lengthy period of time.

My wife had breast cancer that re-emerged as bone cancer and she lived about 17 months after that mainly holding the cancer somewhat at bay until it overcame the available medicines.

An actual doctor will sometimes be loathe to give you a prognosis....its hard to say for sure how they will respond to chemo. Realistically, liver cancer in particular is bad news...I would suspect they don't have a lot of time...perhaps months, maybe a year or more, a lot of variables but who knows....a miracle could occur.

Lastly, stop pushing all the super vitamin BS people. "My cousins brothers friend took badger anus extract and it completely cured him....mail us $300 a month for your supply and we will fix you right up." Bah, my wife was barraged with this crap and some of it was INDEED contra-indicated with her chemo regimine. There is a TON of quackery and easy money to make from scared desperate people so beware.

Mathguy, meant to mention how sorry I am that you lost your wife and all that you've been through.

Good advice about people being scared and desperate enough to try all sorts of stuff, much of it as you say .. quackery.

You hear through the grapevine, that we don't have a cure for cancers, because we don't want one. Well, we do, but the people pushing all kinds of different drugs and cure-alls are doing everything they can to keep the money rolling in from people in such situations.

So you're right in asking us to beware. Thanks for the advice.

[caliguy92832]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

A member of my immediate family was recently admitted to the hospital with symptoms of a swollen leg, fever and excessive sweating. It seemed to come out of nowhere. At first the doctors thought it could be TB but that test came back negative. He was diagnosed with cancer of the lung, which has spread to his liver and is in Stage IV.

I have been doing a lot of research and realize that this is not a good thing. Stage IV is bad. It seems as if the examples given refer to the elderly, but given that he is young and otherwise healthy, is there a possibility he can successfully fight it? They are going to start Chemo very soon.

What are the next steps that we, as a family, need to take? I never have dealt with cancer before and am unsure how to go about this with a level head. I'm not sure what to expect - and I don't want to be misinformed due to all of the conflicting things I'm reading on various websites. The Doc told us not to read online because so much is inaccurate.

I'm not asking for a prognosis from you guys, rather some words possibly from someone who has experienced a similar situation? Anyone know of any books to keep me informed about what exactly is happening, and what to expect?

Thanks for any help.

What age is the member of your family that was diagnosed?

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by StuckPA

That right there is just blatant ignorance. You and others may still be brainwashed by the medical system but that doesn't mean other things don't exist.
I personally know many people who have had their lives turned around by Alternative medicine.

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WC Fields would be proud.

[StuckPA]

By jove I think he's got it!

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by stone-ground

Mathguy, meant to mention how sorry I am that you lost your wife and all that you've been through.

Good advice about people being scared and desperate enough to try all sorts of stuff, much of it as you say .. quackery.

You hear through the grapevine, that we don't have a cure for cancers, because we don't want one. Well, we do, but the people pushing all kinds of different drugs and cure-alls are doing everything they can to keep the money rolling in from people in such situations.

So you're right in asking us to beware. Thanks for the advice.

I agree that there are some promising areas of alternative medicine. The problem is that it is a field awash with psuedo science, fake vitamins (several reports on supplements from foreign countries not actually being vitamin C but rather cheap filler) and general rip-off artists.

My wife's oncologist actually supported vitamins, nutrition and some other regimines and I felt they has *some* benefits. It's the claims of cancer cures...one outfit mailed my wife info on a cancer spa in mexico where they perform crystal scrying or something like that for about 5k a week.

[dlh891]

My thoughts are with your family.

I have posted before about my dad being diagnosed with lung cancer last September and the botched operation, etc. Well, he was in stage 3a when the doctors finally hit upon the right combo of radiation and chemo in January. I just received a call from him last night after the reading of his latest scan and he is apparently cancer free. His doctors are still consulting with others because this is about as close to a miracle as you can come. He has even been working with Sloane Kettering in NYC in conjunction with his doctors and no one could have predicted this.

Please never give up hope. My family thought we were having our last year with him, apparently there is a higher power that decided he needed to stay here.

PS He is a politician in NY so if there is a story done in the newspaper I will post it.

Just never give up hope!

[Roselvr]

Originally Posted by dlh891

My thoughts are with your family.

I have posted before about my dad being diagnosed with lung cancer last September and the botched operation, etc. Well, he was in stage 3a when the doctors finally hit upon the right combo of radiation and chemo in January. I just received a call from him last night after the reading of his latest scan and he is apparently cancer free. His doctors are still consulting with others because this is about as close to a miracle as you can come. He has even been working with Sloane Kettering in NYC in conjunction with his doctors and no one could have predicted this.

Please never give up hope. My family thought we were having our last year with him, apparently there is a higher power that decided he needed to stay here.

PS He is a politician in NY so if there is a story done in the newspaper I will post it.

Just never give up hope!

Good news is always nice! May he stay cancer free.
My dad was in remission for a few months but it came back. Did the doctors say what his chances are?

[bluedevilz]

Originally Posted by StuckPA

That right there is just blatant ignorance. You and others may still be brainwashed by the medical system but that doesn't mean other things don't exist.
I personally know many people who have had their lives turned around by Alternative medicine.

That right there is a blatant lie. I absolutely guarantee you don't know anyone who was diagnosed with stage IV lung CA that "had their lives turned around by alternative medicine" 5 year survival rate is less than 2% with that diagnosis.

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by bluedevilz

That right there is a blatant lie. I absolutely guarantee you don't know anyone who was diagnosed with stage IV lung CA that "had their lives turned around by alternative medicine" 5 year survival rate is less than 2% with that diagnosis.

You want phone numbers? I don't lie. The case I was referring to was an older woman with stage IV cancer,not necessarily lung cancer.

[Roselvr]

Originally Posted by StuckPA

You want phone numbers? I don't lie. The case I was referring to was an older woman with stage IV cancer,not necessarily lung cancer.

Wasn't someone in NJ was it?
My mail lady swears by juicing, which was why I looked into it for my dad when he had leukemia. My mail lady goes to church with someone that juiced and did alternative medicine and was cured last I heard. I don't know where she goes to church but assume it's in the Burlington County area

I will say that if doctors gave me no hope, I would try it. What would I have to lose?