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You're right...most people with an elderly and suffering pet would have their "cherished" pet "put down" to save them unnecessary suffering....I highly doubt that ANYONE would just stop watering and feeding them.
Who would do that to their beloved pet?...When a pet is euthanized it doesn't take a good week for them to slowly die.
I wouldn't be surprised if a person wasn't brought up on charges of cruelty to animals for doing so.
Seems we only save that for us humans....but hey...it'll only take a week of suffering for them and we can just pretend it wasn't painful and what they wanted.
I have no problem with "asking/needing someone else to help" either, just not a doctor....I like to think doctors still value the oath they take to preserve life....I also don't consider starving (actually it's the dehydration that kills them) and withholding water as helping or being compassionate. More like hastening death in a very cruel way.
If people want to die they can...by their hand, it's their choice.
Hospitals and doctors should be there to help heal and preserve life...not end it
Euthanasia is murder, and if we legalize and allow it, we must all realize that there are always (and always will be) those who were innocents that died....no different than the many innocent locked in our jails.
Passive euthanasia, watching someone die and denying them life sustenance is absolutely NOT something that we should be allowing in hospitals, or hospices.
If people don't want compassionate care and sustenance, or the family doesn't want it for them...then let them stay home .Don't take them to a facility where doctors and nurses are at work. Why should a doctor and nurse have to allow your loved one to die because you won't (or haven't the courage? or time?) to do it your self?
Do you REALLY not "get" the fact that under hospice care, people decide FOR THEMSELVES while they are still in their right mind, to forego food and water at the very end stage of their lives IF they can be kept comfortable and IF they don't want to eat or drink or be kept alive artificially for another week of suffering?
I can only speak for myself, but I am not condoning or supporting euthanasia in any way. I am however, supporting the rights of those who have a terminal illness, to make personal decisions about the way they want their lives to end when they are close to death anyway.
I can assure you that my grandmother wouldn't have wanted any of us to bear the burden of killing her. She made the decision and she knew that at any point she wanted to, she could reverse that decision.
You really, really don't seem to understand (in spite of the numerous medical sources that have been provided to you) that in the case of many terminal illnesses, the dying person's body does not have any desire for food or water, and this is natural. In fact, forcing nutrition and fluids on a person at this end stage of their life can actually increase their suffering. Why force food or water on dying people who do not want to be artificially kept alive any longer?
Seems to me that the only people who would oppose the "right-to-die" would be those with a financial interest in the upkeep of droves of helpless patients.
A dignified death is a myth. Once you're in a hospital bed, or a home where your diapers are changed and you're fed and bathed by strangers, your [dignity] is already gone.
What, so children who are in the same position (we usually call them babies or toddlers), needing that same care, are somehow more dignified than an adult who needs it, too?
A dignified death is a myth. Once you're in a hospital bed, or a home where your diapers are changed and you're fed and bathed by strangers, your [dignity] is already gone.
Why should we allow/have doctors giving us the means to kill , just because it shelters the sensibilities of family?
It's up to the family to take care of their own, not the gov, and not the Docs, and if we can't or won't take care of things ourselves, then we shouldn't complain.
I have a couple of questions for you, purehuman:
1) How many Alzheimers patients have you cared for in your home from the time they couldn't live independently till they died?
2) How many people do you know well who have used the services of hospice care? What level of involvement in their care did you have?
Seems to me that the only people who would oppose the "right-to-die" would be those with a financial interest in the upkeep of droves of helpless patients.
Or, possibly, the "helpless patient" who is in a care facility who DOESN'T want to die.
Last edited by purehuman; 07-06-2015 at 02:14 PM..
What, so children who are in the same position (we usually call them babies or toddlers), needing that same care, are somehow more dignified than an adult who needs it, too?
Think about it.
You think about it.....who do you think wants their diaper changed....the gurgling baby or the proud grandfather.
A lot of patients would go to the bathroom if someone would take the time to help them, but instead a diaper is slapped on them...you call that dignified?
You think strangers changing the grandfather's diapers is the same as a mother changing her infants?
We already HAVE the right to die.....anytime you want. Just don't figure someone else should do the dirty work for you...especially someone whose taken an OATH to preserve life.
I don't think it's so much that people disagree with "the choice to die with dignity"...it's more that they don't want a doctor having the power to assist you....and as the article shows [that] IS unnecessary.
It IS possible to die (like this woman did) without having a doctor do the dirty work.
I think the heart of the problem is seeing it as "dirty work."
Originally Posted by purehuman
A dignified death is a myth. Once you're in a hospital bed, or a home where your diapers are changed and you're fed and bathed by strangers, your [dignity] is already gone. Why should we allow/have doctors giving us the means to kill , just because it shelters the sensibilities of family? It's up to the family to take care of their own, not the gov, and not the Docs, and if we can't or won't take care of things ourselves, then we shouldn't complain.
Isn't it against the law for the family to "take care of things themselves?"
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