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Originally Posted by purehuman
We already HAVE the right to die.....anytime you want. Just don't figure someone else should do the dirty work for you...especially someone whose taken an OATH to preserve life.
The oath contains the phrase "But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty", I don't find an unqualified "to preserve life" in the text I find.
The oath contains the phrase "But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty", I don't find an unqualified "to preserve life" in the text I find.
wow, and I don't find the words you've said in there at all.
What's yours from.... a "modern" version, no doubt made to allow doctors to kill???
(re: "dirty work") When strangers take over...it is.
Voluntarily ending your life under the circumstances of which we are speaking, with the support and help of family and friends - including a doctor as far as I am concerned, is far from having "strangers take over."
I think the point for many people, myself among them, is that I do not want any strangers taking over my life and prolonging it for their own uses and purposes. That - most emphatically for me - is the real "dirty work," having your life end in prolonged violation, like an extended rape.
And for a society that crows about its material and technological triumphs, it is a savage irony that we have created a culture in which the terminally ill and the aged have become an industrial complex of expiring cash cows hidden away and milked until every last coin has been squeezed out of their wretched carcasses. And then we "celebrate" their lives in feel-good memorial services designed to erase the filthy final debacle of their lives from our consciences.
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wow, and I don't find the words you've said in there at all.
What's yours from.... a "modern" version, no doubt made to allow doctors to kill???
Despite the hyperbole a modern version IS NOT made to "allow doctors to kill" as you allege, it merely acknowledges the advances made in medicine since the early days and the far greater power doctors today wield, sometimes not all that wisely or humanely.
And I've never seen a version of the oath that has its takers vowing to prolong and maintain a poor quality of life, have you?
If you don't want to be put out of your misery, fine with me. But don't insist that the rest of us have to suffer just because you think it's proper that we do.
If the human race ever becomes civilized, and we're faced with being bedridden for the rest of our lives, we'll have another option - lethal injection. That should be my personal choice, not a choice society has made for me. Let's show the respect and compassion to humans that we presently show only to our pets.
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