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I wondered if anyone happens to know where to go or have a link to the typical costs you can charge an estate upon the persons passing for care-giving.
I took care of my Uncle for 45 days, first said I wouldn't charge anything but since the other beneficiary has passed away. And the remaning beneficiary wouldn't even wait for the house to close, pulled all kinds of sneaky stuff so I have no issues charging about 50% of whatever the customary charge is.
Also because in all fairness, when he was alive, he did pay for our rent which was $1000 (we live in California). So I thought I'd charge $2000 for when he stayed with us 35 days needing 27/7 care. He woke up every few hours needing help.
I am not charging for caring for him for the first couple of weeks because he gave us $1000 for rent and paid for my food. But the remaining beneficiary is so sneaky, he's pulled so much and he's already wealthy.
If I remember right, it is about $200 a day for 24/7 care to bill. I am only going to bill for $2000 (even if I can bill for more) because it is what I feel is right in my heart. That is set. I am also the executor of his estate but NOT a beneficiary. It's just the other family members cannot seem to show up when it is time to help but when they die, I've learned they have alot more time... but such is life.
When I bill, it would be nice when the remaining beneficiary whines about it, I will say " well this is what I could have billed" Thanks so much everyone
In California, personal representatives are entitled to a share of the estate. What is the value of the estate? Billing for your service as personal representative makes a lot more sense than trying to charge an additional fee for care giving after your uncle died and without a written agreement.
Thank you Technically I am called a Trustee of his will. So I already must distribute it per the Trust but I guess you read that.
I am going to spend time later today to study up on that. Thanks again
I have no idea if it is possible to retroactively charge an estate for caregiving unless you have some type of contract or can prove an agreement. I would ask an eldercare attorney in your state.
I would not just assume that it is $200 for 24/7 homecare. I just checked what it would cost in my area for short term (several days) emergency in home care for my hubby (in case, I had to go to the hospital, or something like that).
One agency quoted me $22 an hour ($488 a day) and another agency quoted me $30 an hour ($720 a day). And, my hubby needs very, very minimal care. He can dress himself, take his own showers, feed himself, use the bathroom independently, and is completely mobile. He basically just needs 24/7 supervision and help with preparing meals & reminders to take his pills.
Nno matter what the law is, I think i will just not charge for it. That is my decision
It is actually my husbands uncle but during his dying, he remained appreciative of my care. I didn't know him well. The few words he did speak after he got so ill only meant hegave me much more than $2000 worth of value. Caring for him was an honor. How anyone could go thru that pain and worry about being a burden to me is beyond my comprehension. If anything what he taught me means he should be charging me for the wonderful lessons I've learned
I've been with a few people who died while I was holding their hand. Never had I encountered someone so self-less. I am so glad I posted this because the answer is clear, I shoudn't bill at all. The law doesn't matter. Caring for others is part of our humanity. God gave me the money to meet my basic needs, why I was so selfish to even start this thread?. I am sorry I did.
Thank you all!!
Nno matter what the law is, I think i will just not charge for it. That is my decision
It is actually my husbands uncle but during his dying, he remained appreciative of my care. I didn't know him well. The few words he did speak after he got so ill only meant hegave me much more than $2000 worth of value. Caring for him was an honor. How anyone could go thru that pain and worry about being a burden to me is beyond my comprehension. If anything what he taught me means he should be charging me for the wonderful lessons I've learned
I've been with a few people who died while I was holding their hand. Never had I encountered someone so self-less. I am so glad I posted this because the answer is clear, I shoudn't bill at all. The law doesn't matter. Caring for others is part of our humanity. God gave me the money to meet my basic needs, why I was so selfish to even start this thread?. I am sorry I did.
Thank you all!!
Whatever you decide to do is up to you.
However, for others reading this thread the answer for them may be different. Others may have completely different situations and completely different finances. Caring for someone in your home for 45 days, obviously, is very, very different than someone needing to provide care for months, years, or even decades. Your answer may have been different if you needed to care for your husband's uncle for 5, 10, 15, 20 years or even longer.
And, of course, finances are different for different people. Some people can afford to quit their jobs and provide full time care and others are not able to do that. Or they can do that for six months but not for six years and definitely not for sixteen years. Or they may do that and not realize that it will put their own retirement into serious peril.
Several people pointed out that we believed that you could not charge for care after the person died, but to check with an attorney. But, that may help someone else, just starting out in caregiving, to realize that they should clarify what, if any expenses, are paid by the person receiving care when they start giving care. And, if they are to be paid to get it in writing and not to wait and assume that they can get paid out of the estate.
Good luck to you. It sounds like your husband's uncle appreciated your help.
Last edited by germaine2626; 12-07-2016 at 08:54 AM..
Nno matter what the law is, I think i will just not charge for it. That is my decision
It is actually my husbands uncle but during his dying, he remained appreciative of my care. I didn't know him well. The few words he did speak after he got so ill only meant hegave me much more than $2000 worth of value. Caring for him was an honor. How anyone could go thru that pain and worry about being a burden to me is beyond my comprehension. If anything what he taught me means he should be charging me for the wonderful lessons I've learned
I've been with a few people who died while I was holding their hand. Never had I encountered someone so self-less. I am so glad I posted this because the answer is clear, I shouldn't bill at all. The law doesn't matter. Caring for others is part of our humanity. God gave me the money to meet my basic needs, why I was so selfish to even start this thread?. I am sorry I did.
Thank you all!!
I don't believe it is selfish to consider charging for your service. I just figured that given the circumstances, it would be much less messy to charge an executor (or Trustee) fee than to try and charge for care giving services after the fact.
Whatever you decide to do is up to you.
However, for others reading this thread the answer for them may be different. Others may have completely different situations and completely different finances. Caring for someone in your home for 45 days, obviously, is very, very different than someone needing to provide care for months, years, or even decades. Your answer may have been different if you needed to care for your husband's uncle for 5, 10, 15, 20 years or even longer.
And, of course, finances are different for different people. Some people can afford to quit their jobs and provide full time care and others are not able to do that. Or they can do that for six months but not for six years and definitely not for sixteen years. Or they may do that and not realize that it will put their own retirement into serious peril.
Several people pointed out that we believed that you could not charge for care after the person died, but to check with an attorney. But, that may help someone else, just starting out in caregiving, to realize that they should clarify what, if any expenses, are paid by the person receiving care when they start giving care. And, if they are to be paid to get it in writing and not to wait and assume that they can get paid out of the estate.
Good luck to you. It sounds like your husband's uncle appreciated your help.
We had no idea he was as sick as he was. He was reluctant to even speak of dying, then suddenly, he just stop talking. Maybe 3 words so we couldn't have a conversation with him. He went downhill fast. We could use the money but the long term, well I would just feel better knowing I didn't charge anyhow.
Agreed. 35 days is a BIG difference than long term. And this decision is right for me, I never claimed it would be for other people. This is obviously my post so I cannot comment to any other circumstance. Thank you everyone for your kind words
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Technically I am called a Trustee of his will. So I already must distribute it per the Trust but I guess you read that.
