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Old 01-02-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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I guess you have no motor vehicles, loose dogs and sadistic cat haters in the UK. Odd that.
Oh they do, they do. I read in a UK based animal forum. Frequently there are posts from people whose cats have gone missing, or found dead, seriously injured, poisoned.......there are predators and BAD PEOPLE every where. And there are cars every where. Perhaps Weatherfan lives in a remote area. Lucky for those two cats eh?

Judging by what I read in that forum, more and more people in the UK are keeping their cats inside and/or installing cat safe enclosures, and advising others to do so also. The times they are a changing, over there.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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Huh. I really thought the cat life expectancy in the UK was not so affected by going outdoors as it is here. Fewer predators, oh plenty of cars but generally fewer, no rabies, milder weather, etc.

And yeah, fewer sadistic wackos too or so I would have thought; that always seems like a particular US specialty....
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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Huh. I really thought the cat life expectancy in the UK was not so affected by going outdoors as it is here. Fewer predators, oh plenty of cars but generally fewer, no rabies, milder weather, etc.

And yeah, fewer sadistic wackos too or so I would have thought; that always seems like a particular US specialty....

I would imagine, like anywhere, in any culture, it depends on specific location. My comments above are based on reading in one UK based forum. It does my heart good to see people from over there keeping their cats in and recommending others to do so, also. I avoid the threads where people talk about the atrocities that come up in the news, but they happen, there, here, everywhere.
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I guess you don't read in cat forums very often. Cats go missing every day. Cats come home maimed or poisoned, are found dead, or not found at all, every day. And not just in the USA. Many many more people in the UK are finally beginning to realize that cats are safer and healthier inside. Just as many cat haters over there as their are in the USA. Just as many cars, dogs, other predators, sick people who enjoy torturing cats.

Your cats have been lucky so far. I hope they continue to be.
People also obsess about cats. No one obsesses about pets like "cat people." They are animals. My two cats live outside all year. I don't want them in the house. Outside they are useful because they keep rodents away. Unfortunately they kill a few birds and lizards a year.

Around here, some cats also get eaten by foxes. Oh well. The birds probably think it is funny.
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Old 01-02-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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People also obsess about cats. No one obsesses about pets like "cat people."
Cat people got nothing on dog people. Or how about bird people? Please, as if any one type of pet has a lock on obsession.
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Old 01-02-2012, 09:49 PM
 
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I believe cats should be allowed out in the yard, with supervision, same as a dog. Would anyone think it is okay to let a dog roam around? I hope not. When you get an animal you are taking a responsibility for that animal.

Now, it is different depending on where you live, and the conditions of pet ownership. I have owned cats that were strictly outdoor cats, that were specifically adopted to be outdoor/barn cats. This was in the country, they were responsible for keeping the barn and chicken coop free from mice, and other rodents. These cats were close to feral, and sometimes did dissappear.

But in the city, there are cars, and the cats are used to being inside. They were not raised in a barn, they are domesticated. Jasper is actually fearful of being outside. He knows he is safer inside.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Near Nashville TN
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Oh they do, they do. I read in a UK based animal forum. Frequently there are posts from people whose cats have gone missing, or found dead, seriously injured, poisoned.......there are predators and BAD PEOPLE every where. And there are cars every where. Perhaps Weatherfan lives in a remote area. Lucky for those two cats eh?

Judging by what I read in that forum, more and more people in the UK are keeping their cats inside and/or installing cat safe enclosures, and advising others to do so also. The times they are a changing, over there.
Amen! I was being sarcastic.

I got the indea for our cat's large outdoor "cage," in part, from a UK site.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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I have never had a need to have a cat who performs a certain job, such as catching mice, but do understand where that came from, and life on the farm far away from the dangers of the city seems like a place for that, but probably the only place.

But definitely not the big city, or medium one either.

I see those people's cats dead on the road too often, and feel very sad for them, that they were allowed to become a victim of a violent and horrible death, because of the common misconception that cats need to go outside.

They simply do not ever need to be outside anymore than a curious 3-year-old child, who might also like to be able to roam free but who possesses about the same lack of comprehension as a cat of the many dangers surrounding them. I find it very hard to see the allowing of cats to be outdoors in the city as responsible or compassionate. Each time I have adopted from a shelter or rescue group I am asked to keep them indoors, or that group would not allow me to adopt.

That is a normal part of owning a pet, keeping it healthy, safe and away from obvious harm.

I know this is a divisive issue and my opinions won't change anything that others do. But I feel good about my choice to protect my beloved animals by keeping them safe inside.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: In a cat house! ;)
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My cats, dogs, and kids don't roam free. I chose to have them. They are MY responsibility...not the neighbors'.

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Location: New York / Long Island, NY
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Our neighbors (well upstairs apartment) let their cat roam outside. We like their cat and the cat likes us or our apartment. So letting their cat outside means he ends up inside our place a lot and we get a part-time cat!
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