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I fed Wysong Epigen to Meeko and Alfredo while I was transitioning them from shelter grade kibble to canned then raw food. I have done Extensive reading/studying on Wysong products and Dr. Wysong's papers/monographs ... I'm thouroughly impressed with the science and reasoning behind their products.
They recently re-launched some of their products to incorporate new scientific findings.
After I had begun feeding Epigen to Meeko and Alfredo, I had both of them allergy tested and Alfredo is allergic to chicken, which many Wysong products contain, so I quit feeding him Epigen. Meeko, on the other hand, was not allergic to chicken, and Wysong Epigen was actually suggested from the database of the company I used for allergy testing, BICOM.
There are some commercial raw foods I've bought that advertise that they can be fed to cats OR dogs. NVI Duck and Rabbit, I think, have on the labeling that it's OK for either. It's not a straight up ground raw though, there is a little bit of veg matter filler in there, which I don't like, but Nimbus cat loves rabbit and duck so we give it to him once in a while.
Thanks leanan..I was hoping you would come into the discussion. There are still some knowledgeable folks I'm hoping will speak up. I'm still leery to feed my cats food which is the same for dogs. Something counterintuitive about it.
I think I'd have trouble taking it from a store clerk in most of the pet food stores I visit...I'd definitely be checking online, maybe even standing in the aisle with my phone, and reading labels...but sometimes manufacturers do sell the same food for both.
I think I'd have trouble taking it from a store clerk in most of the pet food stores I visit...I'd definitely be checking online, maybe even standing in the aisle with my phone, and reading labels...but sometimes manufacturers do sell the same food for both.
I called the EVO people. they confirmed it. see upthread somewhere.
Given that cats are obligate carnivores and dogs are omnivores, I'm not enchanted with this idea. Perhaps the designated cat food supplemented with veggies and fruits might work better?
Sushi really likes the Friskies Indoor cat food with garden greens and veggies.
On the other hand, this a cat who'll steal boiled cabbage and corn cobs from the trash can, so that's not saying much.
I think I'd have trouble taking it from a store clerk in most of the pet food stores I visit...I'd definitely be checking online, maybe even standing in the aisle with my phone, and reading labels...but sometimes manufacturers do sell the same food for both.
I had the same comment/thought about pet food store employees, even ones in speciality stores, or boutiques. I would have sworn I had already posted that thought
Honestly, most of the employees [a considerable number] I've discussed cat food with were not only uninformed and uneducated, they weren't aware that they were, and they were so smug [initially] then defensive, when I would ask them to "back up" their ridiculous statements.
Even 90% (approx) of the store owners of one-off boutiques were basically ignorant. Few did any research, they took the manufacturers advertising as truth. One salesperson recommended Wellness, as being on par/comparable to Primal. (It's not) Some of you can image how well that went went over with me
But my favorite statement has to be: Well you know, some cats are allergic to meat." I asked her if she meant, a particular protein? Oh no, "allergic to all meat". (NOT TRUE)
This was her justification for selling kibble with corn, wheat etc.
FYI cats get certain key nutrients from meat—including taurine, arachidonic acid, vitamin A and vitamin B12—that can’t be sufficiently obtained from plant-based foods. Without a steady supply of these nutrients, cats can suffer from liver and heart problems, not to mention skin irritation and hearing loss.
But my favorite statement has to be: Well you know, some cats are allergic to meat." I asked her if she meant, a particular protein? Oh no, "allergic to all meat". (NOT TRUE)
This was her justification for selling kibble with corn, wheat etc.
Next time you hear that ridiculous statement you could mention that it's not the meat, but what the meat animal was FED, or TREATED WITH, that the cat has an intolerance to.
On topic: I'm with those of you who mistrust pet food companies who sell the same formula for both cats and dogs.
Last edited by catsmom21; 06-20-2014 at 05:32 AM..
Yeah, apologies for any redundancy with regard to the "I'm not so sure about the store clerk" comment.
I was just at Petsmart, and the lady there first tried to tell me that Wellness is the most healthy canned cat food in existence, and when I said, "Well, if I was REALLY trying to go all the way with the healthiest stuff, I'd be feeding raw, but I'm not ready to get a grinder and go for it," she said that she's been feeding raw for years and it's easy and I've been "reading the wrong books." She simply gives her dogs and cat raw ground chicken and turkey and sometimes wings or thighs. That's it. And then she got another customer and I left, but I would have liked to ask "what about organ meat and such??"
Whatever. I was there to pick up some of Nimbus' favorites to put back in the mix. Last time I went to a Holistic place and got Tiki and Weruva and such, and he is not approving of the Weruva. Picky little so and so...
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