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I wonder why any of you think that this law is going to stop cat's from being declawed.
In reality it isn't, it is going to make underground, unsanitary declawing, just like underground, unsanitary abortions years ago when they were completely banned.
So what is everyone going to do about all of the dead cats laying about when they have had an illegal, unsanitary declaw done?
If you think anyone is going to find out about it often, you are living in a fantasy land.
You mean there will be veterinarians who do back-alley declawing or pseudo technicians using pliers to remove the claws? I highly doubt it. No decent veterinarian would do anything like this to jeopardize his/her license, reputation and livelihood. In fact, at least here in California, a very high percentage of veterinarians are against declawing.
Comparing backstreet abortions done pre-legalization to declawing a cat is ridiculous!
You mean there will be veterinarians who do back-alley declawing or pseudo technicians using pliers to remove the claws? I highly doubt it. No decent veterinarian would do anything like this to jeopardize his/her license, reputation and livelihood. In fact, at least here in California, a very high percentage of veterinarians are against declawing.
Comparing backstreet abortions done pre-legalization to declawing a cat is ridiculous!
I couldn't agree more. Making the procedure illegal will drastically reduce, if not eliminate, the number of vets available to do it. At the same time, it will also reduce (& hopefully eliminate) pet owners from asking for it to be done in the first place. Once it becomes common knowledge that it's banned/illegal, I doubt there will be very many cat owners willing to break the law to save the sofa.
The only downside to declawing becoming unavailable might be that some cat somewhere might not get adopted, or maybe returned to the shelter at the first sign of damage. But maybe in those cases, the cat might better off elsewhere than with someone who put more value on a piece of furniture than a living being.
I wonder why any of you think that this law is going to stop cat's from being declawed.
In reality it isn't, it is going to make underground, unsanitary declawing, just like underground, unsanitary abortions years ago when they were completely banned.
You think selfish cruel people would make it worth the while of the back-alley declawerer to break the law and risk a fine or jail time? They have to be willing to pay an enormous amount of money.
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So what is everyone going to do about all of the dead cats laying about when they have had an illegal, unsanitary declaw done?
If you think anyone is going to find out about it often, you are living in a fantasy land.
You may be in fantasy land since this is not happening in the countries where it is already illegal. Let those who wont have a cat unless it's de-clawed get some other kind of pet. A bird maybe or a goldfish.
While I wholeheartedly agree with cat declawing being cruel and support banning......but there are going to be even more cat surrenders afterward. More hoarding, more warehousing, more abandoned ferals.......
I think there should be a mandatory spay/neuter law priority. The population has to come down. We need a world where cats are a little hard to find and only truly committed owners get them.
By all means double team both legislative efforts at the same time, but spay neuter is just sooooo important and its only going to happen if its a law.
Jim B - 1) vets won't be legally able to declaw. Easy. No agents necessary. Duh.
2) I always hate the enforcement argument. At least if a law is on the books a violater can have their animal removed, fined etc. even if there isn't active enforcement. Put yourself in the shoes of a neighbor who sees their neighbor chain a dog outside with no shelter, little water or food for years on end. Sure no one is going around actively seeking and ticketing people who do that. But at least if someone reports it the cops have a law on the books to do something about it. For years and years there was no law and people could just torture their dogs like that. Now there are some laws in place in some areas that give animal control some authority if they get a call. WORTH IT! and no at all "silly".
but there are going to be even more cat surrenders afterward.
No, this is not going to happen. As it is, delawed cats are relinquished (or simply kicked outside, or dumped in a remote area) as often as clawed cats. Someone who won't make the effort to train a cat is not going to tolerate any other "behavior" either.
House soiling and biting are common results to declawing. No one ever seems to make the connection to the fact that the cat had his toes amputated six months or six years ago, and now he won't use the litter box because it HURTS.
Or he bites when touched, because it HURTS to be touched (early arthritis is very common, because a cat's gait and stance is changed drastically from the amputation, regardless of the method)
Or they are moving and can't take "the cat". Or they got new furniture and the cat doesn't match. (meaning the cat's shedded fur will show up on the couch).
All these stupid reasons happen to declawed cats just as often as clawed. It's not going to make a bit of difference, because declawing does not "keep cats in homes" and it does not "save lives".
As it is, delawed cats are relinquished (or simply kicked outside, or dumped in a remote area) as often as clawed cats. Someone who won't make the effort to train a cat is not going to tolerate any other "behavior" either.
I have a cat thats declawed and I have 2 more that i plan to get declawed as well. My declawed one is just as happy as the ones that arent. The declaw argument is just as silly as the circumcision argument. You dont want to do it then fine but anything beyond that is too much.
You'll be singing a different tune about declawing when your cats refuse to use the litterbox when they get older because of arthritis. Have fun with that.
You'll be singing a different tune about declawing when your cats refuse to use the litterbox when they get older because of arthritis. Have fun with that.
They'll just dump the cat off at the nearest Animal Control facility or have their vet euthanize it. Seen it happen more than once in my years at the Animal Hosp.
Or he bites when touched, because it HURTS to be touched (early arthritis is very common, because a cat's gait and stance is changed drastically from the amputation, regardless of the method)
Severe arthritis caused by de-clawing was the reason my SD had to have one of her de-clawed cats put down at age 8. He was in constant and chronic pain. I still miss him when we visit there. He was such a sweet kitty.
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