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Old 09-15-2019, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by catsmom21 View Post
I don't recommend any dry kibble ever. It's all bad for cats.
How about wet cat food?
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Old 09-15-2019, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dwatted Wabbit View Post
Bad in what way?

Cats are strict obligate carnivores designed to eat a diet sourced from meat, high in moisture, with little to no carbohydrates. A cat eating a dry diet is chronically dehydrated and at risk for many diseases including urinary tract disorders, kidney disease, diabetes and IBD.

Cats have a digestive system designed to digest meat and meat derivatives not grains and other plant matter. Cats do not have a high thirst drive and cannot drink enough water to off set the dehydration of a dry diet.

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Old 09-15-2019, 02:17 PM
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Agree canned food is the way to go. Their Freedom line seems like a very good product.
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Old 09-16-2019, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by movin2Reston View Post
Agree canned food is the way to go. Their Freedom line seems like a very good product.
"seems like a very good product" using what measure?

The issue I've got is with the entire brand, because they refused to give Dr. Lisa Pierson the information she was looking for, for her chart on protein, fat, and carbs. That, to me, is the true bottom line. Not tricky ingredient lists and "guaranteed min/max" like what's on the labeling.

(This chart is one of many excellent informational resources from www.catinfo.org )

We've been talking about this here for literally years, nearly a decade now. Feline nutritional specialists have been saying for some time that quality in cat feeding goes more or less like this:

- A well made raw diet that follows a quality recipe (not just raw meat! You need bone, organ and supplemental taurine and such.) Can be bought or made at home.
- If not that, then wet canned food ONLY. And only certain ones, with minimal carbs. But the cheapest canned is better than even expensive kibble.
- Dry food, which is not generally very good for cats, but the way I see it is, if you are poor and feeding rescues or strays, and you can't afford "the good stuff" then kibble is better than nothing at all to eat.
- And at the bottom of the list is a badly made, "raw" diet, which could be just muscle meat with no taurine for instance, or worse, the ninnies who think that they can make their cats "vegan" because they themselves are...that will kill your cat, it's essentially animal cruelty. Just no, it's never ok.

And a few brands should be viewed with suspicion...like Blue for not being more transparent, especially with their lofty claims and ads about how healthy and natural their food is--if it's that good, why not share the data? And Hill's, which I will never feed to my cat. I do not buy any food being medicinal or super healthy when it's full of corn meal and plant fillers like Hill's is, and I don't trust how they partner up with vets to get sales and endorsements of their products. Very few vets make a special study of nutrition, most are given information by schools funded by pet food companies, and many take kickbacks from these companies for promotion of products. Which all seems incredibly sheisty to me.

We've covered this subject in exhaustive detail here over the years. But the main thing I tell people who really want good information, is to go to catinfo.org and read the heck out of it. It's a lot. It takes a while. But I've been over every word and do not regret spending the time to do so...if you can read everything there and not be convinced that this woman knows her stuff, then by all means feed your cat whatever, because there isn't anything that the rest of us can tell you that speaks louder that that.
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