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09-19-2010, 06:35 PM
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Location: Portland OR
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Ummm no...I left town for a month. Never saw my cat after his surgery
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You are being sarcastic right? When I say did you see your cat right after the surgery I meant when he woke up and tried to deal with injured paws.
Look, you did what you did, it's a done deal. You were lucky your cat healed and is fine today. It just could have easily gone the other way. But it didn't; I get it.
The point is, if you can't see the cruelty in this mutilation no one will ever be able to convince you it exists. I don't know what it is that would make a person put an animal through this and you can joke all you want; it just isn't a humane thing to do.
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09-19-2010, 07:20 PM
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Location: The Middle
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Originally Posted by Minervah
You are being sarcastic right? When I say did you see your cat right after the surgery I meant when he woke up and tried to deal with injured paws.
Look, you did what you did, it's a done deal. You were lucky your cat healed and is fine today. It just could have easily gone the other way. But it didn't; I get it.
The point is, if you can't see the cruelty in this mutilation no one will ever be able to convince you it exists. I don't know what it is that would make a person put an animal through this and you can joke all you want; it just isn't a humane thing to do.
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Yes, I was being sarcastic.  I saw my cat after his surgery. Yes he was in discomfort. Severe pain? No. You know who was in pain? My female after being spayed. Ya, I had her mutilated too. Or is that I didnt want her have kittens that would later get destroyed at the pound or other means. Look...you have strong opinions about declawing. Great...good for you. We are not going to see eye to eye on this, ever. So..you love your animals and I will love mine.
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09-19-2010, 07:27 PM
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Location: Portland OR
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Originally Posted by fallingwater
Yes, I was being sarcastic.  I saw my cat after his surgery. Yes he was in discomfort. Severe pain? No. You know who was in pain? My female after being spayed. Ya, I had her mutilated too. Or is that I didnt want her have kittens that would later get destroyed at the pound or other means. Look...you have strong opinions about declawing. Great...good for you. We are not going to see eye to eye on this, ever. So..you love your animals and I will love mine.
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Yes I will agree to disagree. That's all we can do.
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09-19-2010, 07:29 PM
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Location: The Middle
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Originally Posted by Minervah
Yes I will agree to disagree. That's all we can do.
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 On a positive note, cats are the coolest pets ever! I have two, they are like potato chips, you just can't have one. 
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09-19-2010, 07:48 PM
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Location: Portland OR
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Originally Posted by fallingwater
 On a positive note, cats are the coolest pets ever! I have two, they are like potato chips, you just can't have one. 
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I always had cats in pairs or triplets until Her Majesty Gracie. She wouldn't hear of it. I tried a couple of times to introduce a new cat into our home but no go. She has been an "only" for 9 years now and she wouldn't have it any other way.
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09-19-2010, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by minervah
i always had cats in pairs or triplets until her majesty gracie. She wouldn't hear of it. I tried a couple of times to introduce a new cat into our home but no go. She has been an "only" for 9 years now and she wouldn't have it any other way.
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lol.
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09-19-2010, 08:58 PM
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Location: home...finally, home .
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I also have an empress Gracie who also will not even allow another animal to visit. This is her domain.
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09-20-2010, 12:33 PM
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fallingwater, minervah -
Good to see the you guys are sharing the litterbox again. I agree with you both.
Many of our cats were declawed when we got them. Some, we've had declawed. Not a single one has exhibited litter box problems. All use their toes like nimble guitar players, whihch would be unlikely if there were residual pain issues.
HOWEVER . . . I will not declaw future cats. Only as a last resort for cats so psychotic that proper vet care would be truly impossible without it. We had one cat that fit that scenario. He lived to 16 with a plethora of medical issues that would have been untreatable had he not been declawed.
I don't condone declawing, but I don't condemn it either. It's all about education and understanding that there is always an expection to the rule.
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09-20-2010, 03:50 PM
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We all need to condemn declawing. It is mutilation and has no place in cat ownership. If you have to declaw a cat, don't get one.
Defending declawing under hypothetical circumstances is simply rationalization. There is no way to sugar coat it. If you did it in the past, forgive yourself. As for the future, don't even go there.
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09-20-2010, 06:08 PM
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Well, I shall bang my head on the brick wall one more time....
DECLAWING SHOULD BE OUTLAWED FROM THIS DAY ON UNTIL FOREVER. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION!
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