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Old 03-05-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Barrio Logan/Shelltown
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Old 03-05-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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Default Ants

Believe it or not, the answer is ants. Where there are many ants, there are no fleas. Main reason we don't kill ants here. When it becomes crucial to rid an ant colony, we ask their forgiveness. Sounds nuts? Oh well....
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Barrio Logan/Shelltown
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I have very few ants. But the manager where I live, doesn't keep up the yard, so we get fleas. Right now we have lots of grass for two reasons - it's been raining, and my next door neighbor and myself planted "Weed and Feed." We live in the ghetto, and we try to make it look "non-ghetto."
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:42 AM
 
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Yesterday, my cat died because of Hartz Ultra Guard Flee Shampoo. I was not aware that there was a problem with it since they were still selling it.

Someone should advise Hartz that just because the flees die or leave when the animal is dead does not mean they have an effective product. It means that they should now be considered mass murderers!
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:40 AM
 
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I am very sorry for your loss. There are many websites devoted to warning about Hartz, Bio Spot and Seargents. Unfortunately the products are still out there, killing pets.

I was horrified the other day when I went to my mothers and saw a bottle of Hartz flea spray on the counter. She hadn't used it yet, thank goodness. It isn't meant to put ON the cats, just use in the house but it contains permethrin, which is fatally toxic to cats.

There is no warning on the label that it shouldn't be used around cats. She said she would return it but becuase I worried she would forget, and use it I wrote POISON TO CATS, DON'T USE with a black magic marker on the bottle.

I won't buy any Hartz product, even toys.

http://www.biospotvictims.org/

http://www.hartzkills.org/

http://www.hartzvictims.org/

http://www.hartzsyndrome.org/2008/09/meet-hartz-president-who-doesnt-care.html (broken link)
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:42 AM
 
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The best natural flea removal I've found which is non-toxic and to which fleas can't become immune is a regular grooming with a simple Flea Comb. Simply put some water and a few drops of dish detergent in a bowl and wipe any fleas that are combed from your pet into it. The soapy water keeps the fleas from floating to the edge and crawl out since they quickly drop to the bottom and drown. Once your cat gets used to this gentle and satisfying routine, they'll actually look forward to the grooming. My cats love it.
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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I can not count the number of times someone would call the vet hospital saying their cat was having a seizure or drooling. The first question we'd ask was 'did you use an OTC flea medication like Hartz?" I truly do not understand why it is still on the market.

I agree with Friend of Cats that minor flea infestations are best taken of as simply as possible. The real problem though is when the fleas start breeding in the carpet and bedding...you can quickly have a situation that's out of control. This year is supposed to be particularly bad for ticks and fleas. I don't use any flea products myself, or at least I haven't to this point. JJ has very bad flea allergies though and will rip himself up from one bite. I am seriously considering using Revolution even though I don't like the idea of putting what amounts to a systemic pesticide on this rather delicate cat.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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I can not count the number of times someone would call the vet hospital saying their cat was having a seizure or drooling. The first question we'd ask was 'did you use an OTC flea medication like Hartz?" I truly do not understand why it is still on the market.

I agree with Friend of Cats that minor flea infestations are best taken of as simply as possible. The real problem though is when the fleas start breeding in the carpet and bedding...you can quickly have a situation that's out of control. This year is supposed to be particularly bad for ticks and fleas. I don't use any flea products myself, or at least I haven't to this point. JJ has very bad flea allergies though and will rip himself up from one bite. I am seriously considering using Revolution even though I don't like the idea of putting what amounts to a systemic pesticide on this rather delicate cat.
I would consider frontline plus rather than revolution for JJ. Frontline is not absorbed systemicly, it is at skin level only.

You make a good point about the environment. If someone wants to control fleas by combing and drowning, daily vacuuming, with a cut up flea collar in the vacuum bag or canister, should be done. The bag should be thrown away or canister should be emptied, outside, then washed, after every vacuum.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: the wrong side of the tracks Richmond, VA
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Do you guys automatically apply flea medicine in the spring? I moved out from California and it was never an issue (BooBoo went 14 years without EVER getting infested until we moved to DC) but with three now, I don't want to see them flea infested but I'd also like to avoid unnecessary medication. The vet said I should treat them all season but they also want me to buy the stuff from them so I'm a bit skeptical... this is the same vet who said I should put my struggling senior on some awful sawdust/corn prescription diet.

When we first moved here we lived in a suburban environment, with huge gardens in our backyard so I imagine someone brought the fleas in but now we're in a condo in the heart of DC but there are ferals in my parking lot so I'd hate to bring something in.

We have all hardwood throughout the house except for two big rugs in my living room and bedroom so it would be difficult for fleas to breed in the carpet we don't have.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:14 PM
 
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I don't use flea treatments at all ,except in unusual circumstances. Unusual would be if I was bringing in a rescued kitty who was flea ridden. I've had to treat for a few months at a time, twice, in those circumstances.

The other situation was last summer. My elderly mother was over-run with fleas and I was driving out to her house monthly to help her get all her cats treated at the same time.

Because the flea infestation was so serious, I knew the likelihood of me bringing back fleas or eggs was high, so I treated my gang for the three months I was helping my mother.
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