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Old 07-13-2010, 04:12 PM
 
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What gives the media the right to report anything????
uh, just this little inconsequential thing called the first amendment. maybe you've heard of it?
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Not tied down... maybe later! *rawr*
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huh???

What I meant was, with so much going on in the world that's REAL news (wars, rumors of wars, oil spills not being cleaned up, famine, genocide, etc), celebrity news isn't really news worthy. To me, that's making up the news, when you have the top story being things like who Tiger Woods is bangin', who Mel Gibson is screamin' at, where Paris Hilton is hangin' out, etc. It really is none of my business about what any of those people do.

I know if the news was only the real stuff, we'd look for another outlet cuz it would be depressing as hell, but...


And I'm interested why, if it's not illegal to record, that companies MUST tell you they are recording the conversation, etc. It's the law to tell me and I can tell them I don't wanna be recorded and the conversation MUST end. I mean, years ago, Linda Tripp got in trouble for recording Monica Whatshername without her knowing it.
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:20 PM
 
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give me a break - the guy may have assaulted her and is most definitely verbally abusive to her, and she's more in the wrong because she set up a situation where she could tape him admitting to things he did, and demonstrating the kind of verbal abuse that i'm sure had already happened before?

did she tie him down and force him to threaten to burn her house down, wish rape on her, and admit to hitting her? oh, did she bait him into hitting her too? does he have no responsibility for his own actions in all of this?
Yes--I think she knew how to provoke him--push his buttons.

Something isn't clear at this time or I haven't found/heard anything about why he didn't work out a settlement and cut ties. Maybe he did/thought he did--and then she wanted more --I can't keep up with all of these stories.

Assuming then--he agreed to a particular amount of support, she wanted more and she came up with the plan to tape him--go to the media. That sounds close to blackmail--which is probably something an attorney would allege. So --criminal charges--court--civil litigation---settlement and those who know abhor MG will not see his films. The case is used by the media to heighten public awareness ---precedents are set.
A stupid mistake--2 people who behaved in less than honorable fashion--another child caught in the middle.

While BP works on the oil spill and while too many other issues to name need critical attention.
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:21 PM
 
Location: gazing @ the Blue Ridge Mountains
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I'm telling it to you, and any and all readers of this thread, so that you can be disabused of this false information, regardless of its source.

You will notice that I admonished the media to be more careful before allowing anyone on their shows to spout off crap that's not true. Now that you know it's not true, I trust you will not repeat said false information.
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What I meant was, with so much going on in the world that's REAL news (wars, rumors of wars, oil spills not being cleaned up, famine, genocide, etc), celebrity news isn't really news worthy. To me, that's making up the news, when you have the top story being things like who Tiger Woods is bangin', who Mel Gibson is screamin' at, where Paris Hilton is hangin' out, etc. It really is none of my business about what any of those people do.

I know if the news was only the real stuff, we'd look for another outlet cuz it would be depressing as hell, but...


And I'm interested why, if it's not illegal to record, that companies MUST tell you they are recording the conversation, etc. It's the law to tell me and I can tell them I don't wanna be recorded and the conversation MUST end. I mean, years ago, Linda Tripp got in trouble for recording Monica Whatshername without her knowing it.
Jill has set us straight
she trusts that since she did so we will cease and desist from repeating false information
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:23 PM
 
Location: gazing @ the Blue Ridge Mountains
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Yes--I think she knew how to provoke him--push his buttons.

Something isn't clear at this time or I haven't found/heard anything about why he didn't work out a settlement and cut ties. Maybe he did/thought he did--and then she wanted more --I can't keep up with all of these stories.

Assuming then--he agreed to a particular amount of support, she wanted more and she came up with the plan to tape him--go to the media. That sounds close to blackmail--which is probably something an attorney would allege. So --criminal charges--court--civil litigation---settlement and those who know abhor MG will not see his films. The case is used by the media to heighten public awareness ---precedents are set.
A stupid mistake--2 people who behaved in less than honorable fashion--another child caught in the middle.

While BP works on the oil spill and while too many other issues to name need critical attention.
BRAVO!!! A most excellent post.
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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tell it to CNN
FYI. . .

CNN.com - Contact Us

On July 12, 2010 Jim Moret was on CNN Primetime with Campbell Brown and made the following statement:

"MORET: We don't know a lot. And I'll tell you my big question is when you listen to the tapes again, pay attention to Oksana's voice. It sounds almost pristine when compared to Mel Gibson's, which to me suggests that she may be separately miked. I wonder how -- what was brought up to prompt her to record this? Was she afraid for her safety? Did her attorneys suggest she record these tapes? This is a two-party state in California, where it's unlawful to record someone without their knowledge. So you know, I wonder why she's recording these tapes."

CNN.com - Transcripts

While it is true that GENERALLY it is unlawful to record someone without their knowledge in California, there is an exception to this law that provides:

"633.5. Nothing in Section 631, 632, 632.5, 632.6, or 632.7 prohibits one party to a confidential communication from recording the communication for the purpose of obtaining evidence reasonably believed to relate to the commission by another party to the communication of the crime of extortion, kidnapping, bribery, any felony involving violence against the person, or a violation of Section 653m. Nothing in Section 631, 632, 632.5, 632.6, or 632.7 renders any evidence so obtained inadmissible in a prosecution for extortion, kidnapping, bribery, any felony involving violence against the person, a violation of Section 653m, or any crime in connection therewith."

CA Codes (pen:630-638)

That makes Oksana Grigorieva perfectly and fully within her rights to record her private conversation with Mel Gibson, even in California. It is utterly irresponsible for you to allow this misinformation to be put out to a believing and trusting public. As a supposedly respected media outlet, you have an obligation to your viewers to give them factual information. I hope that you will make sure that this is corrected on your station.

Sincerely,
Jill Kxxxxxx
(xxx) xxx-xxxx
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Not tied down... maybe later! *rawr*
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Thanks for that post Jill! I have learned something new today
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:20 PM
 
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Of course any criminal activity that occurred is serious, but the rant just sounds so... dramatic. The timing and the way he enunciates is like a something from a movie. In that way, it's somewhat entertaining. I can see him on his cell phone in his Braveheart garb and sword, all angry and passionate at having been "wronged", sweating and panting and screaming vengeance against the evil doer. So Hollywood.
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:44 PM
 
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BRAVO!!! A most excellent post.
lol--When I turn the TV off I can vaguely recall how to think.

This isn't just 'celebrity news'--someone mentioned that.

It is the legal process at work. If/when this case gets to a CA court then the decisions made will impact all of us--not just those living in CA.

Anyone who thinks that Eastern Europe and Asia and South America--other sovereign nations around the world don't understand that 'Rich Americans'/all of us--not just celebrities 'should' share the wealth with them--by any means possible--isn't keeping up with world news. The US isn't 'not well liked'/haughty, arrogant super power--you may be eating beans and doing w/o basic necessities but you are still 'Rich'--according to some. If that doesn't make you SCREAM and perhaps use obscenities then you may be a much better person that most--or uninformed.

When MG faces justice --then put yourself in his place.

I remember during the ballon boy hoax--before we had the facts--there was suspicion of domestic violence--I was highly suspicious and could never understand why the teachers, school community hadn't intervened. Then I learned that the mother--Asian--and had been taking acting classes in LA prior to meeting the idiotic bb dad--had made some friends/acquaintances with a B/C list comedian. The Comedian said --'She should just take the kids and leave--if the courts attempted to intervene'--flee LE. No compunctions--no morality--find a way to manipulate the system--live above the law.

So I really don't have a great deal of outrage over this woman's abuse. Slick, sleazy --entitled --the physical abuse was wrong --the words were wrong but I don't think very many of us would willing 'give' what we had worked for to someone who demanded it--the tape recorder was the gun she held to his head. And the media is waving it around.

Mel needs a new project. If he is tired of acting/directing--he seems fully capable of finding a new challenge.
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Old 07-13-2010, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Not tied down... maybe later! *rawr*
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This isn't just 'celebrity news'--someone mentioned that.

I mentioned it and, um.. yes it is. He's a celebrity... that screamed at someone on the phone. It's 'celebrity news'.

If it isn't celebrity news, show me the global impact this has on the world. Show me where new laws will be made out of this. I seriously have doubts that anything that comes out of this will ever impact your life. No new laws are going to be written, the child support system in Cali will stay the same, people will still be allowed to call someone and scream at them on the phone, he's not going to be arrested for being a jackwagon, etc.

What Mel Gibson has done will never impact anyone's personal life but Mel and whatshername's. Therefore, it's celebrity gossip news. We're discussing what a celebrity did on his own time, in his personal life.

The only thing this has done is make Gibson look like an a**clown and made his PR dept. go and scramble to try and save what's left of his career.
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