Mel Gibson did it again (actors, Friends, character, country)

[PippySkiddles]

Originally Posted by pll

Why did she divorce him then? I really hope you're right. However, I do know that there are many women that have abusive husbands and when problems come they don't know where to go so they keep their problem to themselves. Mel is a very rich and powerful man. His first wife probably learned early on not to come against him.
Sadly, people always try to blame the victim instead of the abuser("She had it coming..."). Not sure why but it's pretty gross.

could be because she found out her husband not only had a mistress but said mistress was pregnant.

Originally Posted by pll

For those that believe Oksana is motivated by greed it was reported in TMZ today " sources close to Oksana say ... if she was motivated by money she would not have rejected Mel's $15 million settlement." I think she was afraid for her life and took his threats seriously.

She was quite alright w/the settlement until some atty. () told her he could get her a better deal. That's when the set-up began

Originally Posted by Mt-7

Why do you think he keeps saying that she hurt him?
We are not getting the entire story, IMO she is hoping for him to have a heart attack or something.
I think I would not need one penny to flee to save the life of myself or my child. She is guilty of child abuse if she allowed this to be going on with her children there. Personal responsibility people.

exactly!

Originally Posted by pll

Just released:

WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Mel Gibson Punched Oksana Twice, Choked Her & Then Threatened To Murder Her & Family, She Tells Authorities | RadarOnline.com

What a jerk. I truly hope Oksana is successful in this fight. I think it's much worse then we realize.

LOL--she is such a victim

[Mt-7]

Please do not take my comments as in anyway advocating for abuse in any form.
However.
The absolute second he was asleep or out of there me and mine would have been on the other side of the country. Wouldn't the first child's father help her?
Still smelling a skunk here.

[TakeAhike]

Originally Posted by pll

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Many of them don't live in reality. Look at what they chose to do for a living..pretend. After many years of this for a living...and being very good at it... don't you think that some actors confuse reality vs fantasy? The way Mel spoke on the tapes to Oksana reminded me of some of the movie roles he has played in the past. Yikes!

That crossed my mind and others have mentioned this,too. 'Acting'--I would certainly bring this possibility into the mix.

'They' say he acknowledges 'bipolar'--I saw an interview and he is a skilled communicator--'something, something, do you mean the comments attributed to me'.
Something really set him off. 1) He doesn't want the child to be taken away completely--good enough reason according to some men, 2) It is the money 3) Things that we just don't know--his ego has been damaged--he is deeply in love with her--???

28 years in a marriage--6 or 7 children. What is different now? I never heard much about his children--one son has been involved in a few films and a daughter. I hope they get this straightened out. Bill Clinton will walk his daughter down the aisle soon--I know that family had some challenging moments. Maybe one day...

[ladarron]

Mel Gibson is crazy, he seriously need help.

[intrepidnomad]

Originally Posted by Mt-7

Please do not take my comments as in anyway advocating for abuse in any form.
However.
The absolute second he was asleep or out of there me and mine would have been on the other side of the country. Wouldn't the first child's father help her?
Still smelling a skunk here.

No, not necessarily. You must observe a dysfunctional relationship to really understand what goes on. The abusive person becomes co-dependent on the person abusing them. In fact, you are in denial and you keep clinging to all the good memories in order to support your excuses for not leaving.

Have you ever been desperately in love with someone? Or, on a similar level, think of a good friend who always brought you down energy-wise - you couldn't leave them even though they drove you nuts - you felt major guilt, as if you were abandoning them. When you love someone you always go the extra mile, it's not easy to walk away.

[PippySkiddles]

Originally Posted by intrepidnomad

No, not necessarily. You must observe a dysfunctional relationship to really understand what goes on. The abusive person becomes co-dependent on the person abusing them. In fact, you are in denial and you keep clinging to all the good memories in order to support your excuses for not leaving.

Have you ever been desperately in love with someone? Or, on a similar level, think of a good friend who always brought you down energy-wise - you couldn't leave them even though they drove you nuts - you felt major guilt, as if you were abandoning them. When you love someone you always go the extra mile, it's not easy to walk away.

for her it wasn't easy,I suppose to walk away from the money. Then she wanted more. She's a vile creature. Love? As Tina Turner says,"what's love got to do with it?" it's called common sense to get the hell out of a situation that is abusive( if it was,which I have my doubts), to protect your child if the child is in danger. She was no victim,IMHO-she was/is an instigator.

[TakeAhike]

Originally Posted by intrepidnomad

No, not necessarily. You must observe a dysfunctional relationship to really understand what goes on. The abusive person becomes co-dependent on the person abusing them. In fact, you are in denial and you keep clinging to all the good memories in order to support your excuses for not leaving.

Have you ever been desperately in love with someone? Or, on a similar level, think of a good friend who always brought you down energy-wise - you couldn't leave them even though they drove you nuts - you felt major guilt, as if you were abandoning them. When you love someone you always go the extra mile, it's not easy to walk away.

All of that is true.

They showed an interview from 2009--I thought they said this was when the relationship began--then elsewhere others said the relationship began 3 yrs ago--such a mixture of information, misinformation on this relationship.

She called Gibson a visionary. He supported her career--then they showed cuts from the videos they produced. Much more 'rock n roll' than I expected.

I've about had it with this drama. She's 40 and he's 54. About all I can say for either of them is work out the finances and go your separate ways.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by TakeAhike

There was a closed hearing between the 2 parties on Thurs or Fri.
Gibson's soon to be ex wife submitted a statement that there had been no abuse issues during their marriage.
The custody agreement previously signed remained in place--he has visitation several times during the week and on the weekend.
I believe he had to turn his weapons over to the court.

I hadn't kept up either. They say these tapes were made in Jan.--and the custody agreement was signed in May.

She had previously signed a 'cohabitation agreement'--rather than a prenup which protects his fortune.

It sounds like some sort of mid life crisis. He sold a house/estate in NewYork and the Malibu beach house is on the market. He may be headed home to Australia at least for a while.

This makes me wonder if the child was planned.

There are women who follow big names and cohabit for that very reason - to have a claim on their money.
Men are victimized in society, too.
There are reasons why the wealthy or 'names' don't socialize with the general public. They tend to attract a lot of unscrupulous people that you and, well at least 'I', don't have to worry about.
I don't trust most 'pr' from the media in cases like this. Sometimes we never find out the truth.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by pll

Why did she divorce him then? I really hope you're right. However, I do know that there are many women that have abusive husbands and when problems come they don't know where to go so they keep their problem to themselves. Mel is a very rich and powerful man. His first wife probably learned early on not to come against him.
Sadly, people always try to blame the victim instead of the abuser("She had it coming..."). Not sure why but it's pretty gross.

I am not denying that Mel is one sick puppy, but there are many 'victims' who are predators and manipulators. Many guys were charged with rape by women who bated them. Women get restraint orders taken out on husbands who did nothing to them, but there is money to be made doing this when you are in the middle of divorce. How many men are wrongly accused of pedophilia and are no such thing, but simply love their kids and want custody?

Are there predators in the world? Sure. But there are also innocent people who are victimized by 'poor defenseless' women.

I have no reason not to believe the wife when she says she was not abused. Don't forget, they can interview the kids, too. This is just another indication that this ex-girlfriend may be playing Mel, knowing he has a short fuse and bating him.

Look, I think it's nice to speculate, but we must reserve judgment in these cases and hope the courts can sort out what is real.

I just hope the dope does not get a Jewish judge. It's hard to be impartial about Mel when he says such ignorant things.

[TakeAhike]

Originally Posted by goldengrain

There are women who follow big names and cohabit for that very reason - to have a claim on their money.
Men are victimized in society, too.
There are reasons why the wealthy or 'names' don't socialize with the general public. They tend to attract a lot of unscrupulous people that you and, well at least 'I', don't have to worry about.
I don't trust most 'pr' from the media in cases like this. Sometimes we never find out the truth.

I think that is what happened in this case. Until all the investigations are completed there is really not much sense in 'the rest of us' trying to guess.

If she was a 20 something I would be more inclined to think 'she didn't know what else to do'/stay in abusive relationship, etc

What will happen if the day ever comes that every word/thought said in private is publicized I shudder to think.

^^
I just hope the dope does not get a Jewish judge. It's hard to be impartial about Mel when he says such ignorant things.[/quote]

I think a Jewish judge would be 'seasoned' enough to review the facts. Miraculously, I am able to do this in daily life--'ad hominem' attacks. Race, religion, political preference, choice of dog--there are strong feeling/beliefs about every aspect of our lives.

Margaret Cho was a bit offended-wink, wink--that Asians had not received attention.