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Old 05-02-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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Exactly--- although it may be true that she has bipolar there were never any reports which causes me to suspect the whole thing. And, I'm just not a fan of people once they become posterchild banner-wavers. It's a PR disaster. Heartless but true.
I don't think bipolar is as bad or as obvious as you may think. I find it odd that you think you'd be able to tell. It's not like you live next door, or something. I assume you have the same access to her that the rest of us do.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:59 AM
 
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I don't think bipolar is as bad or as obvious as you may think. I find it odd that you think you'd be able to tell. It's not like you live next door, or something. I assume you have the same access to her that the rest of us do.
Maybe CZJ had access to doctors that really understood 'bipolar'--she is Welsh, a Celt--it is said to be prevalent in that culture. sigh--If you are 'creative'--acting, singing, dancing, writing--you are on your way to bipolar. I had a friend who was/is Bipolar 1--more profound. With S it began in adolescence--and her family had a rich heritage of mental issues. It was horrible what she went through. She would tell me about hallucinations--very interested in Science/Religion/Alternative beliefs--she tried everything--hated the medication--lithium--it really was the only thing that worked and it took several decades to find the right dosage. She was brilliant--wanted to become a doctor--tried to attend a Chiropractic school--but the moods would overwhelm her time and time again. She finally found the right meds--but has to be very careful about diet, exercise and managing stress.

Seemed to have a family somewhat like Diana's--aristocrats. Her brother was schizophrenic. Mental illness needs to be understood.

I wish there were conclusive tests. 'The Brain'---so much progress has been made and so much more is needed.
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Old 05-03-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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What about movie sets? Yes, I would think bipolar would show up randomly & interfere with ones ability to work. Still think based on the friend's account that she refused to go out, which I have read dozens of times on menopause forums, that she is in the midst of the change.
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I don't think bipolar is as bad or as obvious as you may think. I find it odd that you think you'd be able to tell. It's not like you live next door, or something. I assume you have the same access to her that the rest of us do.
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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What about movie sets? Yes, I would think bipolar would show up randomly & interfere with ones ability to work. Still think based on the friend's account that she refused to go out, which I have read dozens of times on menopause forums, that she is in the midst of the change.
the manic episodes of bipolar II can manifest as anxiety. Anxiety can cause people to not want to socialize. I don't care what you've read, I'm living it. I don't know why you think you are so knowledgeable on the subject.

ETA - and what about movie sets? Are you on set with her? How do you know what goes on?
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:00 AM
 
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Maybe CZJ had access to doctors that really understood 'bipolar'--she is Welsh, a Celt--it is said to be prevalent in that culture. sigh--If you are 'creative'--acting, singing, dancing, writing--you are on your way to bipolar. I had a friend who was/is Bipolar 1--more profound. With S it began in adolescence--and her family had a rich heritage of mental issues. It was horrible what she went through. She would tell me about hallucinations--very interested in Science/Religion/Alternative beliefs--she tried everything--hated the medication--lithium--it really was the only thing that worked and it took several decades to find the right dosage. She was brilliant--wanted to become a doctor--tried to attend a Chiropractic school--but the moods would overwhelm her time and time again. She finally found the right meds--but has to be very careful about diet, exercise and managing stress.

Seemed to have a family somewhat like Diana's--aristocrats. Her brother was schizophrenic. Mental illness needs to be understood.

I wish there were conclusive tests. 'The Brain'---so much progress has been made and so much more is needed.
and there are different levels of severity. She could have it and it might not be obvious even to those around her, let alone people who see her in magazines and movies.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:06 AM
 
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the manic episodes of bipolar II can manifest as anxiety. Anxiety can cause people to not want to socialize. I don't care what you've read, I'm living it. I don't know why you think you are so knowledgeable on the subject.

ETA - and what about movie sets? Are you on set with her? How do you know what goes on?
Great questions for the OP because I for one am really bothered by her obsession.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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What about movie sets? Yes, I would think bipolar would show up randomly & interfere with ones ability to work.
Were there problems on the set with Miss ZJ's you would have read about them in the tabloids you seem to enjoy so much. Every waitress, driver, and third assistant director in Hollywood has the National Enquirer on speed dial. Because the NE pays for those tips. A photo of Miss ZJ's stomping her foot and yelling at the camera operator would be worth money. (Be it from mental illness, "the change" or her not liking the fruit Craft Services put out that morning.)

Seen any?

She's been working since she was a teenager. She gets hired. A lot. A person who causes problems on the set causes money to be lost. Every day filming is held up it costs the studio/producers money. Were she a raving maniac or sitting depessed in her trailer unable or unwilling to do her job she would be unemployed. She's not.

My point in all this is that if Ms. ZJ hadn't been outed we wouldn't be here talking about her. She has a problem. She got help for her problem. She's working. Her husband and kids love her. She's respected in the business. Where's the story?

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Old 05-03-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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Anxiety might actually cause her to be a better worker. It does me. I am always on time. I work hard. I worry about not doing a good job. It keeps me on task.
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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Anxiety & bipolar disorder ought to be 2 separate illnesses, why the AMA will never get my $ or respect. Anxiety is a huge symptom of perimenopause. It is mentioned constantly on menopause boards. CZJ probably could benefit from BHRT, I hope she gets help in addition to whatever else she's on.
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the manic episodes of bipolar II can manifest as anxiety. Anxiety can cause people to not want to socialize. I don't care what you've read, I'm living it. I don't know why you think you are so knowledgeable on the subject.

ETA - and what about movie sets? Are you on set with her? How do you know what goes on?
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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Anxiety & bipolar disorder ought to be 2 separate illnesses, why the AMA will never get my $ or respect. Anxiety is a huge symptom of perimenopause. It is mentioned constantly on menopause boards. CZJ probably could benefit from BHRT, I hope she gets help in addition to whatever else she's on.
People of both sexes and all ages have anxiety. I, personally, don't get my medical info from on-line forums. They are full of people who don't know what the he## they are talking about!
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