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Old 06-06-2011, 10:09 AM
Location: Temporarily, in Limerick
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Firstly, with all the gin he soaked up, I'm guessing they were cold showers to revive himself so he wouldn't pass out. Some people become nice when drinking & nasty when sober or vice versa. I've heard he was the latter from 2 people who knew him, one at the beginning of his career, the other towards the end. They both said the same thing... "He was nice, to me... but I knew to always stay out of his way & only comment on a topic he'd brought up".

There was a interesting article in an odd-news kind of way years ago. It was before OCD was in our common parlance & listed all the famous people known to have been constant showerers/bathers. I remember Cleopatra being one (what else is a queen to do all day) & the only other I remember was Rudolph Nureyev, the ballet dancer, who took 5 baths per day while also running the shower over his head as he sat in his tub of bubble bath.

With Sinatra/Nureyev, perhaps it has something to do with growing up poor & doing something considered more luxurious. As a poor kid living in a house with no hot running water, we forever took baths in the same tub of water (cleaner kids first, muddy kids last... of course I'm 200-yrs old)... 4 kettles heated up & dumped into the tub. I thought 2" of water was a normal bath & only rich people had filled tubs... or so said mum. For me it's a luxury that I have a garden style tub... I take 2 baths/day with it filled to my chin... sheer heaven. A psychologist might say it has more to do with guilt & wanting to wash away "sins", or as someone said above, "strange", to need 5 or 12 showers.

BTW, I'd like to see the list of those who need a bath... there are an awful lot of celebs who look like they need good scrubdowns everytime I see them. Brad Pitt used to be known for not bathing... supposedly drove Gina Davis nuts & straight out the door... then Paltrow got ahold of him & cleaned him up real good in time for Angelina to whisk him away. Johnny Depp looks like he needs a bath (or maybe that's his carefully cultivated "I don't care about Hollywood" look)... Keith Richards, Willy Nelson, Mickey Rourke, Courtney Love... someone please send them all the Sinatra book.
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:12 AM
Location: Temporarily, in Limerick
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Oh, & I forgot to add... I can't stop smiling that Frank smelled of lavendar. I'm sure no one ever dared mention it to him. His favorite color was orange & he supposedly had a penchant for orange shirts. I'm not saying anything... I'm just sayin' it's not what I expected since I've only seen him in black tux.

He once said to my friend (who was a 17-yr old jazz musician playing with big bands... in the late 60's), "Only wear black after 5, kid. Unless you're a creep." Such a way with words, our Frank.

I also remembered another known for not bathing, ever. Mao Tse Tung. One of his mistressess said he hadn't had a bath since he was a child... perhaps it was said to discredit him, who knows... but I've heard of stranger things.
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