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Confidence isn't about "showing yourself and breaking the appealing image." I'd say it's actually the opposite, it is having an appealing self-image that does not break.
One of the hallmarks of true confidence is the ability to confide. Allen characters do that to a fault. Clooney characters, to the extent they had any insecurities or neurotic quirks, would keep them hidden. For example, everyone has fears, but fear of ever revealing that you even have any fears is pathological. Anyway, that may not be the whole enchilada of confidence, but it's certainly a meaty part. For this part, the point goes to Allen.
That reminds me, I need to go get lunch.
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You read too much into the word confidence on here or other dating sites.. its womenspeak for good looking guy who has the balls to approach them
In this day and age, I guess that's what it boils down to. Oh well.
George Clooney and Woody Allen are actors. When they are onscreen - they are not being themselves - they are being different characters. Are you asking us which one of them plays more confident characters? Since most of us probably don't know Mr. Clooney and Mr. Allen personally - we can't possibly say which person is more confident in real life. And I'd say that Mr. Clooney has played a more wide variety of characters than Mr. Allen has. But overall - I'd say that Mr. Clooney plays more confident characters while Mr. Allen plays more self deprecating characters - which is not a sign of confidence. But at the end of the day - every movie is different and every character is different. I find it strange to try to compare the body of work of two actors and compare something like confidence. It's sort of like asking which one has a better sense of humor or which one is more intelligent.
One of the hallmarks of true confidence is the ability to confide. Allen characters do that to a fault. Clooney characters, to the extent they had any insecurities or neurotic quirks, would keep them hidden. For example, everyone has fears, but fear of ever revealing that you even have any fears is pathological. Anyway, that may not be the whole enchilada of confidence, but it's certainly a meaty part. For this part, the point goes to Allen.
That reminds me, I need to go get lunch.
In this day and age, I guess that's what it boils down to. Oh well.
[SIZE=4]con·fi·dence[/SIZE]
/[SIZE=3]ˈkɒnfɪdəns[/SIZE]/ Show Spelled[kon-fi-duhns] Show IPA noun 1. full trust; belief in the powers, trustworthiness, or reliability of a person or thing: We have every confidence in their ability to succeed.
2. belief in oneself and one's powers or abilities; self-confidence; self-reliance; assurance: His lack of confidence defeated him.
3.certitude; assurance: He described the situation with such confidence that the audience believed him completely.
5. (especially in European politics) the wish to retain an incumbent government in office, as shown by a vote in a particular issue: a vote of confidence.
It sounds like you are going by #4 while I see this type of confidence more as definitions #2 and 3.
One of the hallmarks of true confidence is the ability to confide.
i don't agree. i think of confidence as a sort of self-delusion that comes from having an irrationally optimistic view of who we are, even if it is only temporary.
I can't. I voted Clooney because I wouldn't know woody allen if he walked through the door. As far as I know I've never seen him act, nor seen anything he's ever made.
That's sad, dude. You should go rent Annie Hall or Manhattan.
One of the hallmarks of true confidence is the ability to confide.
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i don't agree. i think of confidence as a sort of self-delusion that comes from having an irrationally optimistic view of who we are, even if it is only temporary.
Well, then it's interesting that "confidence" and "confide" come from the same root. Funny, that.
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2. belief in oneself and one's powers or abilities; self-confidence; self-reliance; assurance: His lack of confidence defeated him.
If a guy goes around showing all the goofiness that everyone else is afraid to show, how's that not confident? It speaks to lack of fear.
Well, then it's interesting that "confidence" and "confide" come from the same root. Funny, that.
If a guy goes around showing all the goofiness that everyone else is afraid to show, how's that not confident? It speaks to lack of fear.
[SIZE=4]Word Origin & History [/SIZE]
confidence
c.1430, from L. confidentia, from confidentem, prp. of confidere "to have full trust or reliance," from con-, intensive prefix, + fidere "to trust" (see faith). For sense of "swindle" see con (3)
The point I was trying to make is that it seems that it means different things to different people. As there are many definitions - I'm not saying one is right or one is wrong.
We also have our own different interpretations of the characters that these men have portrayed. I don't think goofiness is equal to confidence. Clooney was plenty goofy in Oh Brother, Where Art Thou. I see Allen as more self deprecating than self confident.
But once again - comparing movie roles for something like confidence doesn't make much sense to me.
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