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Old 06-21-2013, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Northern Illinois
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I do not approve of using slurs, slang terms, deprecating language when referring to anybody, but you know what - I've done and said things at an earlier time in my life when I had not matured and didn't realize or care how hurtful I was being to another human being. I seriously doubt I am the only one on the planet who has done this. Seriously, do any of you know one single soul on this earth who has NOT EVER said one of "those words" about any specific group of people - whether racial, generational, nationality related, etc.? It happens, but I don't believe that in itself is a firing offense. I am pretty sure that persons of all races have said "those words" about any person in another race or culture. Those words have been around for generations. They are hurtful and ugly, but I don't think they will disappear in our lifetimes. I do commend her for admitting it and not trying to lie out of it - she looked us directly in the face and expressed remorse and admitted what she had done, and in my opinion it seemed to be honest. I'm not a "fan" either, but I am a person and I can appreciate how hard it is to admit wrongdoing - hey, she's human too. She probably has enough money to last her for eternity, but this isn't about money - it's about integrity and pride and doing the right thing. What do you want her to do now? She apologized - is that not enough? Personally, I think the Food Network is in overkill on this - they are using her to generate more attention towards them - like they need more attention. I say step back, cool off, shake hands, and come out acting like grown-ups. Let's move on, please.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:01 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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she should of known better 20 years ago.
Perhaps she should have known better but do the majority of people know why she said what she said when she said it?

It was an incident where an African American man was in her face, pointing his finger at her and being very nasty to her. She reacted in anger. Not a good way to do it but that's what she did. This happened long before she achieved fame. She was still struggling. I don't think she even had her little restaurant yet. Not only that, it was the South and things were different in the South back then. In some parts, it still is.

For the general public, I think this outrage is more about jealousy than the incident. She worked hard to achieve success. Some people just don't like it because they can't do it so they jump on something that happened over 20 years ago.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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Perhaps she should have known better but do the majority of people know why she said what she said when she said it?

It was an incident where an African American man was in her face, pointing his finger at her and being very nasty to her. She reacted in anger. Not a good way to do it but that's what she did. This happened long before she achieved fame. She was still struggling. I don't think she even had her little restaurant yet. Not only that, it was the South and things were different in the South back then. In some parts, it still is.

For the general public, I think this outrage is more about jealousy than the incident. She worked hard to achieve success. Some people just don't like it because they can't do it so they jump on something that happened over 20 years ago.
20 years ago was not the late 50's and early 60's. maybe you should read excerpts of the transcript in this thread. bubba liked to surf porn at the store and she wanted to have all black waiters for a wedding like they had during, before and after the civil war. like slaves. the woman is clueless.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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A good southern white male friend and I were watching Mark Furman's testimony during the O.J. Simpson. Following Furman's testimony he turned to me and said, "Any white man who says that he hadn't said ****** in the last 10 years is a damned liar."

That was the one of the most truthful statements that I have ever heard a white man make. Paula Dean, a white woman born in Georgina in 1947 used the N word... I'm shocked, SHOCKED I SAY! But the truth is that I would truly shocked if never did.

However ever,

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Right. Dollars take precedence over justice, political correctness rules over common sense and personal and corporate cowardice reigns supreme. What a sorry commentary on what this country has become.
"Justice" has absolutely nothing to do with the issues and is amazing to me for anyone to call a corporation "cowardly" for cutting a business liability. Yes dollars take precedence! Dollars are what they are in the business to make. There business is not to give away cooking tips for free, there business is to put people on the air who viewers will like and respect so that they can turn around and sell ad time based upon the how many viewers like and respect the person that they are broadcasting. Why this needs to be explained to anyone is a recurring mystery.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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I think the Food Network and the media are blowing this out of proportions.
Firstly, this occured 20 years, ago, people change and honestly,what real harm has come out of all this.

People use racial slurs everyday. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, people are free to say whatever they wish....they simply must accept the consequences for that freedom.

And by the way, 2007 was not 20 years ago....

Jackson alleged that while Deen was planning her brother’s 2007 wedding, she said of the waitstaff, “Well what I would really like is a bunch of little [N-words] to wear long-sleeve white shirts, black shorts and black bow ties...now that would be a true Southern wedding, wouldn't it?"
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Default paula deen fired from food network *racial slur*

Us Weekly Mobile - Celebrity News - Paula Deen Fired by Food Network; Contract Not Renewed
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Had something to do with her using racial slurs.
I can't stand her, I am sure her popularity has been shrinking for the past few years, but I also think this was a chicken way to dump her. Other than watching things like, future stars, i am through with the food network... I give Paula credit for admitting, years ago she as well as most used it...We are not talking about today or even 5 years ago.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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Yes, people are free to say whatever they wish....they simply must accept the consequences for that freedom.

And by the way, 2007 was not 20 years ago....

Jackson alleged that while Deen was planning her brother’s 2007 wedding, she said of the waitstaff, “Well what I would really like is a bunch of little [N-words] to wear long-sleeve white shirts, black shorts and black bow ties...now that would be a true Southern wedding, wouldn't it?"

It's also alleged that Jackson told Deen she would go to the press, if Deen didn't pay her a lot of money, too. Plenty of allegations being tossed around. I'm not saying Deen is innocent of saying such things but it would be wrong to simply believe the comments of someone with motive for causing trouble. I think this is going to court, too. It's just pathetic that this is what's become of this country.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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And read this article as well:

From the article:
Deen is also accused of sexual harassment, and was found in contempt of court for refusing to turn over a video in which she allegedly simulates a sex act on a chocolate eclair.

Read more: "N-word" user Paula Deen is an Obama supporter | The Daily Caller

wow. just wow.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I never watched her show, anyway. Many of her recipes, although looked delicious, weren't all that healthy.

Getting the boot over something that was said 20+ years ago? Oh please! Wendy Williams must be overjoyed.
so they were not healthy, we all know southern cooking isn't going to win the "healthy alternative" contest, but that has nothing to do with her being dropped and if you never watched her, how do you know about her recipes, other than hear say?
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