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I agree with this more than I'd like to. Having served, it makes me sick that nearly all wars and actions the US has fought recently have been for some hidden agenda that was laid out more than a decade ago. Makes one feel extremely foolish.
you can say whatever you like. free country. oh, and you know why it's a free country, right?
If you are telling me that the middle class, the poor and minorities don't make up the vast majority of
our enlisted men and women, then you have a lot to learn.
If you are telling me that the middle class, the poor and minorities don't make up the vast majority of
our enlisted men and women, then you have a lot to learn.
first you say many who joined. now you limit discussion to enlisted. moving target. impossible discussion. my head hurts.
The United States now has a professional army, like the Roman army during the Principiate or the British army during it's Imperial days (and the American army during the Indian Wars). Soldiers enlist of their own will and fight as a profession.
Historically such the rankers of such armies came from the working class and the officers from the nobility and gentry. All were professionals. The United States differs from this model in that the officers come from the working and middle classes, the rankers still come from the working class. The American upper class avoids professional soldiering.
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The United States now has a professional army, like the Roman army during the Principiate or the British army during it's Imperial days. Soldiers enlist of their own will and fight as a profession.
Historically such the rankers of such armies came from the working class and the officers from the nobility and gentry. All were professionals. The United States differs from this model in that the officers come from the working and middle classes, the rankers still come from the working class. The American upper class avoids professional soldiering.
so pertaining to the subject of this thread; celebs who put their careers on hold for a war, are they then exempt because they are upper class? they certainly are not nobility or gentry.
in the 25 years that i've served i have worked side by side with many officers who were NOT middle or lower class. many, as in majority. during my last decade or so due to my rank the officers i mostly dealt with were of a higher rank - say O-5 to 3 star.
thus, your statement:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irishtom29
The American upper class avoids professional soldiering.
is false.
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