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Old 09-04-2014, 10:10 PM
 
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No, for this, it's exactly where the blame should lie. Who took and/or willingly posed for the photos? Who stored them without being aware of what that storage entailed? Who sent them over the Internet without knowing what was involved? Who gave them to someone else or allowed someone else to access them?

Photos are made to be shared. If you don't want them to be shared, don't take them.

And in a digital world, what exactly was "stolen"? A pattern of 1's and 0's? Copied (not "taken") from an insecure storage place after an idiot put it there?

I think in every case it was either stupidity on the part of the subject or a publicity stunt to get attention.

FWIW, I have never stepped out of the shower, looked in the mirror and thought "Wow! I have to share this with the world!"
Nope. This is like saying to a worker at a bank "oh, you typed those sensitive memos for your boss and saved a copy on the company server in a locked folder thats supposed to be secure, the one everyone saves things to? You idiot! Now we got hacked and our secrets are out there!". That's what a secure server is supposed to be for in the first place. They were all photos stolen from what was supposed to be a password protected personal folder on a secure network.

When celebrity photos leak, they are usually from stolen phones or laptops, or are leaked by the person the photo was sent to. These were not people being caught with photos on something portable that is easily snatched. These are celebrities whose photos were stolen from the one place that was supposed to be safe. And many of the photos had actually been deleted, the celebrities didn't know there was still a copy on the cloud.

Did you blame Target shoppers when thier card info was tolen as well? I mean, everyone knows credit card info gets hacked right? Stupid people not using cash everywhere. How dare they take that major corporation with a lot to lose at their word that their info would be safe? Fools.

Oh, wait...
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:59 PM
Status: "Now it won't stop raining!" (set 26 days ago)
 
Location: "Arlen" Texas
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Uh, naked is not the issue. It's having private photos exposed and you feeling violated. Go tell the celebs in question.

You tell them if you like. We are silly about nudity in our culture. Everyone has a body. Big deal.
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Old 09-05-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Nope. This is like saying to a worker at a bank "oh, you typed those sensitive memos for your boss and saved a copy on the company server in a locked folder thats supposed to be secure, the one everyone saves things to? You idiot! Now we got hacked and our secrets are out there!". That's what a secure server is supposed to be for in the first place. They were all photos stolen from what was supposed to be a password protected personal folder on a secure network.

When celebrity photos leak, they are usually from stolen phones or laptops, or are leaked by the person the photo was sent to. These were not people being caught with photos on something portable that is easily snatched. These are celebrities whose photos were stolen from the one place that was supposed to be safe. And many of the photos had actually been deleted, the celebrities didn't know there was still a copy on the cloud.

Did you blame Target shoppers when thier card info was tolen as well? I mean, everyone knows credit card info gets hacked right? Stupid people not using cash everywhere. How dare they take that major corporation with a lot to lose at their word that their info would be safe? Fools.

Oh, wait...
That's the thing. The pictures were under SECURE protection from Apple's iCloud network. Was there always a chance it could get hacked like Target or Home Depot, sure but that doesn't make it reckless to do anything. I think this is more blame the victim and kick them while they are down bs we see from more and more people today because they lack sympathy.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Some Beach... Somewhere...
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Actually, no. While it's not the smartest thing to take nude photos of yourself, the blame lies in who is responsible for those photos getting leaked. Period.
No, the blame lies with the idiot who took or allowed them to be created in the first place. People are not free from the consequences of doing stupid things.
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Warwick, RI
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No, if you are hacked, the hacker is responsible. Period.
Wrong. You wouldn't leave a stack of $100 bills on the dashboard of your locked car and park it in a busy parking lot all day, would you? Sure, if the money gets stolen, the thief is guilty of the crime, but you are to blame for leaving it out in plain site.

A smart phone or a internet connected computer device is no different - if you're connected to the net, then you're a potential target for hackers, and if they want to hack you, you will be hacked. If you want to load all your personal and private sensitive data onto these devices and walk around believing that you're somehow secure then you deserve what you get. And this applies DOUBLE for a celebrity who must know that they are high value targets for hackers!

Smarten up people, your devices are not nearly as secure as you think they are.

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Old 09-09-2014, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Warwick, RI
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That's the thing. The pictures were under SECURE protection from Apple's iCloud network. Was there always a chance it could get hacked like Target or Home Depot, sure but that doesn't make it reckless to do anything. I think this is more blame the victim and kick them while they are down bs we see from more and more people today because they lack sympathy.
I'm not kicking anyone while they're down at all, in fact if you read my posts, you'd see that I did not pass moral judgement at all as to the nature of the material that was hacked. I'm simply saying that our so called "secure" systems are not secure at all. If someone wants you hacked, it's gonna happen, period. The only way to keep personal material like that completely secure is to not upload it at all- a hacker can not steal what isn't there!

That'a not a lack of sympathy, that's just plain old common sense.

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Old 09-09-2014, 05:20 PM
 
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Don't know if "blame" is the proper word, but anyone who uploads anything to any sort of site or place that stores data deserves what they get.

Persons have been taking nude or otherwise compromising photographs of themselves ever since the invention of the camera. Thing is in previous generations such photographs were stored away under lock and key or at least were physical. One had to beware of their existence and hunt them down, come upon, find them so to speak. Such property is subject to laws regarding theft and or publication/distribution. Not to mention having to gain access to where the things were secreted. While there are privacy laws regarding digital data it often is too little too late.

Once something is "out" on the Internet all the restraining orders or whatever legal action cannot unring that bell. Therefore the simple solution is to stop trusting so much in "secure" technology. If you don't want your personal business potentially exposed for God and the world to see keep it off electronic devices.

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