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Old 11-16-2015, 10:41 PM
 
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I join the many others here who can say they have personally known people who died of AIDS. I lost not one but two of my dearest friends to the hideous disease and I have personally been acquainted with other people who had AIDS and died or are HIV positive and are still alive (and none of them were in the NBA).

Truly, you haven't lived until you've sat at the bedside of a beloved friend who is dying and knows it ... and hasn't had their 35th birthday yet. If you don't have to watch someone you adore waste away then go to their funerals and try to tell their grieving parents what a great child they raised, I think you should thank whatever higher power you believe in for protecting you from one of life's more hideous moments.
My brother died of AIDS in '93 , right before his 40th birthday. I have also participated in some friend's funerals that had AIDS. Those were NOT fun times. Now, it can be viewed as chronic as my wife's nephew is HIV+ and is holding down a job and living with his husband in CAL. We all pray for the day when there will be a cure.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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I'm stunned....I'm shocked.....ok not really. I always figured he had oodles of crotch rot. Tends to happen when one boinks hookers and is a drug addict.
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Old 11-16-2015, 11:17 PM
 
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Um Sheen is your age. He isn't a millennial. He was starring in the Major League and Hot Shots movies between the times when I was still in diapers and into first grade.
Didn't say he was. I was speaking towards how someone with HIV is viewed vs someone with a fatal disease that isn't "their fault".

But, that stigma that still exists with people in their 40's and higher, could be a reason that he hid it.

And.. Well, when you're a drug addict.. You are just flat out taking more chances all around.
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Old 11-16-2015, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Didn't say he was. I was speaking towards how someone with HIV is viewed vs someone with a fatal disease that isn't "their fault".

But, that stigma that still exists with people in their 40's and higher, could be a reason that he hid it.

And.. Well, when you're a drug addict.. You are just flat out taking more chances all around.
I don't exactly think HIV/AIDS is someone's fault, it is simply the actions that put you in that situation that causes that. Say for Mr. Sheen, he did drugs (not sure if any of it was needle based, I do know he loved his powder though) and he slept with lots of women including porn stars and prostitutes (I am willing to bet unlike me with my lone sexual partner through intercourse he didn't use condoms.) This would make it their fault. It's not like he was on the down-low and say got Denise infected as well from his homosexual relations (remember the down-low is slang for guys who are straight but privately conduct homosexual acts) and Denise wasn't the wiser until it was too late (a problem with your generation, especially when you were younger.) Sheen's acts were directly tied to him getting HIV while possibly Denise (at least in this example) got it through being innocent in the matter and not knowing Sheen's exploits (whether not told or not aware.)
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Old 11-17-2015, 12:51 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Hope the BA#%&$D gets jail time for potentially infecting so many once he KNEW he was positive and continued to have relationships without protection if he is the "A-Lister" referred to in the story that states he had been meeting non-stop with his lawyers in anticipation of the lawsuits that were expected with his announcement.

Is ANYONE capable of contracting the virus? ABSOLUTELY! But to continue to have unprotected sex with anyone/everyone that is willing once you KNOW you are HIV+ without informing them of the fact should be a criminal act.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:43 AM
 
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Lifestyle catching up with him perhaps? Fortunately for him, being HIV+ isn't quite the death sentence it used to be.
And how is that?
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:55 AM
 
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I was going to say the same thing. He had to either sleep with a man or used a dirty needle. Its hard to catch the virus from women
I agree. There are so many guys that go overseas that sleep with prostitutes and yet they come back to their wives and gfs you would think they would infect a significant amount of the population. This hasn't happened.
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Old 11-17-2015, 02:59 AM
 
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Some of these statements are embarrassing to the posters.

Apparently Charlie has known that he was positive for 4 years. I hope that he did not interact with anyone. I predict that he did so as a result I predict some law suits coming soon.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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We look at people who die of AIDS/HIV differently than other people who die young.

Now, in saying that, I mean my generation.. The current 40-50 year olds.

We were in school and of an age to understand what was happening during the whole Ryan White thing, and went through the period when rumors and half-truths were all that we had. news would report that it was spread by kissing.. Sharing a toothbrush, etc.

My age (41).. We're kinda the turning point.. Because right about the time we started really understanding what it was all about, the true facts started coming out. That it was fairly difficult to catch.

But, still.. I tend to, and I think people around my age still think of it as something that someone has done to themselves. Yes, there are people who got it transferred from the mother, there's likely still some of the older hemophiliacs out there living with it (One of the Ray brothers is still alive, I believe).. A person or twelve who got it from a dentist (yes, kids, dentists used to stick their nasty hands right in your mouth with no gloves) But, in general, we still look at it as you did something wrong (so far as your choices) to catch it.

Younger folks.. I think never developed that attitude. and.. The younger folks I think are more reckless, because they never grew up with it being a death sentence. A horrible death sentence. So, they're more apt to make a poor choice and catch it as well.

But.. I certainly do look at someone who is 35 dying of AIDS differently than someone who is 35 dying of a brain tumor. Not defending that I do look at it differently, but.. I do.
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Didn't say he was. I was speaking towards how someone with HIV is viewed vs someone with a fatal disease that isn't "their fault".

But, that stigma that still exists with people in their 40's and higher, could be a reason that he hid it.

And.. Well, when you're a drug addict.. You are just flat out taking more chances all around.
You're entitled to your beliefs and opinions but please don't excuse your point of view by blaming it on someone's age. I'm older than 50 and I certainly don't look at AIDS deaths the way you do. In fact, people don't even die of AIDS, they die of other things resulting from their immune deficiencies, such as pneumonia, blood diseases, or wasting syndromes related to their inability to process nutrients.

I know an AIDS victim (he was an actor and I'll bet you've seen him on TV) who developed a brain tumor (which ruined his vision before he died). That's what his family listed as the cause of death to keep from having to endure the judgements of people who somehow think of AIDS as "the fault" of the victim.

Not a single one of my friends who died of AIDS was a drug user. Not one was aware of the fact that their sexual behavior carried the risk of a deadly virus. So how could that be their "fault"? How about the people, including children, who got AIDS from blood transfusions? Are their deaths less of a tragedy than people who die speeding in their cars or from guns not stored safely? Those are not "natural" or "unavoidable" deaths.

I can't even imagine being so judgmental.
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:15 AM
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Location: Coastal Georgia
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Just to add an aged perspective. I had my last baby in early 1983. He was premature, and there was talk about my husband and I giving blood if he needed it, because there was a glimmer of awareness in the medical community about a new virus that was transmitted through blood, among other things. I don't even remember if they called it a name then.
I feel sorry for the people who came out of the sixties and seventies sexual revolution with this deadly virus before they came up with the medicine to treat it.
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