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Old 06-30-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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No, power to influence people who already like you is one thing. Actual power over the apparatus of the government, military and ability to nominate justices to the Supreme Court etc., that's real power.
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Old 06-30-2016, 01:53 PM
Status: "Vote out white supremacy" (set 2 days ago)
 
Location: Washington, DC
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I am not angry, nor am I a realtor by profession...I just happen to have a real estate license I use for my own investment purposes...I have personally done just fine under during his tenure, but it is in spite of him....NOT because of him.

I look objectively at performance and as a President he has been horrible. His economic "recovery" is the worst in history. The number of Americans on food stamps has nearly doubled, His unemployment numbers are artificially low because the government stops counting people who have been out of work for 18 months or longer. Most of his job creation is part time work, which is counted as employed for unemployment purposes. He has more than doubled the cost of Healthcare in the United States, decimated doctors and hospitals, and all but eliminated private (non-affiliated) doctors offices.

He has overseen the decimation of our military, refused to enforce immigration law, appointed unqualified people to key offices, allowed ISIS to run amok, destabilized the middle east, treated our allies as enemies, and bowed down to our true enemies like IRAN, by funneling millions of dollars to them, squandered BILLIONS on green energy hoaxes....Ya, he really has done a bang up job....
"Worst in history" sounds likely , that's what you've let yourself be told. He wanted robust stimulus plans and infrastructure upgrades but the Republican House obstructed him every step of the way. The unemployment picture is far better than it has been but you assume the numbers are cooked. He has provided healthcare to hundreds of thousands but you don't care. More than doubled is an untruth.

"Decimation of the military" sure we have the strongest military in world history and trimming the fat is an agenda of most military leaders of any stripe. Another untruth. Bush created ISIS and Obama's military continues to destroy them and their strongholds. Squandered billions? again you are talking about the Bush administration, the Iraq war was not budgeted for and will continue to vex the world for generations.

You're clearly informed by media that is paid for the purpose of assassinating the Democratic party. Lies, half-truths all for the foolish to consume. Vote for Trump and continue to be butt angry for 4 or 8 more years.
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Old 06-30-2016, 02:39 PM
 
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"Worst in history" sounds likely , that's what you've let yourself be told. He wanted robust stimulus plans and infrastructure upgrades but the Republican House obstructed him every step of the way. The unemployment picture is far better than it has been but you assume the numbers are cooked. He has provided healthcare to hundreds of thousands but you don't care. More than doubled is an untruth.

"Decimation of the military" sure we have the strongest military in world history and trimming the fat is an agenda of most military leaders of any stripe. Another untruth. Bush created ISIS and Obama's military continues to destroy them and their strongholds. Squandered billions? again you are talking about the Bush administration, the Iraq war was not budgeted for and will continue to vex the world for generations.

You're clearly informed by media that is paid for the purpose of assassinating the Democratic party. Lies, half-truths all for the foolish to consume. Vote for Trump and continue to be butt angry for 4 or 8 more years.
Whatever Kool-aid you are drinking must be good....If you can't see how much worse the employment actually is under Obama you are intentionally not looking. Those numbers can not be cooked...it is a black and white FACT. Nearly 1/3 Americans do not work at all. Number of folks on food stamps has doubled.

Did he force more people to BUY health insurance? YES - more people are covered, but they still can not afford health care....the plan prices HAVE doubled...in some states it has been more than twice as much....so now we have more people with insurance but because of the crippling premiums they can not afford to use the insurance...they have $2500, $5000, or $7500 deductibles...and they have $200 in the bank.

In addition to people not being able to afford it, the insurers are losing their butts too...that is why so many insurers are no longer participating in the exchanges....they are not making money.

Bush did not create ISIS....Obama did....Iraq was stable when Bush handed it off...Obama pledged to leave IRAQ to please his naive liberals and get elected, so he did...he left a vacuum of power and the rest is history even if you choose to create your own imaginary version of it.

My information comes from a plethora of sources...I watch network TV (I do not have cable) and I read the news as it is reported daily...I look at both liberal and more right leaning news sources, and you can't cover up the truth

You probably believe Hillary told the truth about Benghazi, does not sell access to her through the Clinton foundation, and that the email scandal is just more republican witch hunts. If you do not want to see the truth I can't make you....but you are misinformed.
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:18 PM
 
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I usually find that the ones who fling the "kool-aid drinking" insults are the ones sporting the red mustache.
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I would have to choose Taylor Swift because she never stared into a TV camera and LIED TO MY FACE. Obama has.......multiple times.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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I would say yes.
Absolutely not and never will. The president still carries the nuclear "football" which is something Swift will never touch, thank God.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by marksmu View Post
I am not angry, nor am I a realtor by profession...I just happen to have a real estate license I use for my own investment purposes...I have personally done just fine under during his tenure, but it is in spite of him....NOT because of him.

I look objectively at performance and as a President he has been horrible. His economic "recovery" is the worst in history. The number of Americans on food stamps has nearly doubled, His unemployment numbers are artificially low because the government stops counting people who have been out of work for 18 months or longer. Most of his job creation is part time work, which is counted as employed for unemployment purposes. He has more than doubled the cost of Healthcare in the United States, decimated doctors and hospitals, and all but eliminated private (non-affiliated) doctors offices.

He has overseen the decimation of our military, refused to enforce immigration law, appointed unqualified people to key offices, allowed ISIS to run amok, destabilized the middle east, treated our allies as enemies, and bowed down to our true enemies like IRAN, by funneling millions of dollars to them, squandered BILLIONS on green energy hoaxes....Ya, he really has done a bang up job....
Obviously January 20, 2017, at noon, can't come soon enough for you!
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:16 AM
 
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I would have to choose Taylor Swift because she never stared into a TV camera and LIED TO MY FACE. Obama has.......multiple times.
Lol. Her entire career is a lie! Fooling people that she has talent when she doesn't.
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Old 07-01-2016, 09:14 AM
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Location: Ontario
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I would have to choose Taylor Swift because she never stared into a TV camera and LIED TO MY FACE. Obama has.......multiple times.
Not so sure....said she was country...but never really was...
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Old 07-02-2016, 09:30 PM
Status: "It's Hockey time!" (set 28 days ago)
 
Location: Planet Earth
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Hey guys, the politics forum is down below here so if you guys could just take your talk there and.....

...ah hell nevermind, the OP asked for it. Carry on.
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