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Old 07-03-2016, 12:39 AM
 
Location: England
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I remember watching 'The Deer Hunter' back in the late 70s. This film, seen on a cinema screen remains vivid in my memory.

He was held to be a cinematic genius, and given a fortune to film 'Heaven's Gate' in 1980. It is one of the biggest flops in movie history, and contributed to the near collapse of the studio that made it, United Artists.

It is a film of boring sections, with others that take your breath away. It is a movie, like 'The Deer Hunter' that is worth watching more than once. That's more than can be said for most films made today.

RIP.
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Old 07-03-2016, 08:22 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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He was held to be a cinematic genius, and given a fortune to film 'Heaven's Gate' in 1980. It is one of the biggest flops in movie history, and contributed to the near collapse of the studio that made it, United Artists. It is a film of boring sections, with others that take your breath away.
Certainly a beautiful film....probably not appreciated back then.

"Writing about “Heaven’s Gate” in 2012, the New Yorker critic Richard Brody suggested that, had the film been released in the Internet age, critics would have turned it into “a succès d’estime, not after 32 years but from the start.”
Michael Cimino, a 'Hunter' in pursuit of an uncompromising vision - LA Times
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:06 AM
 
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Certainly a beautiful film....probably not appreciated back then.
I saw Heaven's Gate in a cinema, and was stunned by it's visual beauty. It sure was a long three hours though......... But, I was aware of Michael Cimino's talent, and his struggle for many years to get the finance to make this film.

The critical mauling it received on release, and short period it was available in cinemas, means few have even seen this film, especially in a movie house.

It is worthy of viewing, and especially with the large television screens many own now, an appreciation of it's strengths can be had. I own a DVD copy, and have enjoyed revisiting this strange, beautiful film.
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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he certainly was a genius, and he never let anyone forget it. Very odd and eccentric man, but there's often a very fine and poorly defined line between genius and madness.

I sometimes wonder how his career would have gone had he not followed the "Deer Hunter" with "Heaven's Gate." "Heaven's Gate" not only destroyed his brand new career, it actually changed the way studios produced pictures, because nobody wanted to risk their entire studio on some "auteur-driven" concept film. Studios demanded more control of the creative process after that, and Hollywood has never been the same. If he'd made a couple decent to good or even great films in between, he might have solidified his reputation a little more, to the point where he would have had more chances after HG flopped. And in fact, Heaven's Gate may even have been a better film, had he spent a few years learning to control his ego.

At any rate - yes, a true genius. Thank you, Mr. Cimino, for sharing a bit of your vision with us. Many of our lives will be forever somewhat better for your having done so.
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Old 07-04-2016, 04:18 AM
 
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