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Old 08-03-2017, 09:29 PM
 
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I saw the incident when it happened, and it was horrid. John Denver wasn't in attendance, but had a prepared acceptance speech videotaped and it was playing on the screen when Charlie Rich lit up the envelope.

There's no point in arguing this. Maybe you should read Take Me Home. In his own words, John Denver does reveal his feeling of being snubbed by the industry, even though in his heyday he was a very popular musician. He had, and still has, a very very loyal fan base that John Denver was grateful for and actually a little mystified by their adoration.


Of course you're right. It was well-known at the time that JD was hurt by that We Are the World snub. He called Geldof personally to inquire about it, and was told that a number of performers threatened to bolt if JD appeared. They considered him to be "too pop." And, c'mon...hokey, too. What a joke. Anyway, Geldof decided to nix JD in favor of the big egos---the hypocrites soooo interested in global welfare they snubbed an artist who was advocating those things before it was fashionable.

JD said that after he hung up, it stung--but only a little because he considered the benefit of the big picture. Bob Geldof, to his credit, remembered seeing JD say that (on Larry King, I think) and had nothing but nice things to say about how he accepted being overlooked. Which, he said, was in direct contrast to Joan Baez (nixed because she hadn't "charted" in years), who was irate and, according to him, never missed an opportunity to tell him so.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:43 PM
 
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Of course you're right. It was well-known at the time that JD was hurt by that We Are the World snub. He called Geldof personally to inquire about it, and was told that a number of performers threatened to bolt if JD appeared. They considered him to be "too pop." And, c'mon...hokey, too. What a joke. Anyway, Geldof decided to nix JD in favor of the big egos---the hypocrites soooo interested in global welfare they snubbed an artist who was advocating those things before it was fashionable.

JD said that after he hung up, it stung--but only a little because he considered the benefit of the big picture. Bob Geldof, to his credit, remembered seeing JD say that (on Larry King, I think) and had nothing but nice things to say about how he accepted being overlooked. Which, he said, was in direct contrast to Joan Baez (nixed because she hadn't "charted" in years), who was irate and, according to him, never missed an opportunity to tell him so.
Um hm. He fell into a category of musicians who I think were labeled "bubblegum". David Cassidy, Donny Osmond, Barry Manilow, Sean Cassidy, Bobby Sherman, the Carpenters, Paul Anka. Excellent musicians, all of them, but they didn't garner a lot of respect from other musicians. It's sad. I think if a musician has a largely female audience, they kind of get sidelined. Elvis Presley being the exception.

One of the funniest stories John Denver told in his memoir was trying out for a spot on The Monkees TV show and band. Those casting the show said John Denver wasn't "goofy enough", something he found very funny and ironic.

Anyway, RIP John. You are missed.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:55 PM
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Folk > Country
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:03 AM
 
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Okay, folks. Please, let's not bicker.

To borrow from ( another much beloved & gone too soon) Michael Landon' s sentiment and last wishes..."Remember me with smiles and laughter..."
While others obviously won't I will honor your request.
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Old 08-04-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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Okay, here's the Truth:

It wasnt at all about being pop or bubble gum. It was about his anti-war stance. That is what really ticked off that community of artists. He was viewed a male Jane Fonda. He was labeled as just another dirty hippie. That's the truth. He was anti nuke. He was anti war. He adopted two non Caucasian children. He was a environmentalist.

And for all those things, I am the most proud of him!
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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Okay, here's the Truth:

It wasnt at all about being pop or bubble gum. It was about his anti-war stance. That is what really ticked off that community of artists. He was viewed a male Jane Fonda. He was labeled as just another dirty hippie. That's the truth. He was anti nuke. He was anti war. He adopted two non Caucasian children. He was a environmentalist.

And for all those things, I am the most proud of him!
No one is going to get me to say anything bad about JD,sorry not happening.Maybe John felt slighted but that was his own opinion not the truth and pickel I respect you but your wrong also.Springsteen had performed at the "No Nuke " concert ,Springsteen and Dylan tell me they weren't anti War???Go back and look at the amount of artist that were not in it,it is astounding.Everyone could not be in it someone was going to have their feelings hurt ...evident JD thought himself above his peers according to some of the people posting here.No bigger activest than Dan Fogelberg and where was he?
Neil Young,Steven Stills,James Taylor,Carole King, Peter ,Paul and Mary....,the list of people not on it goes on and on.

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Old 08-04-2017, 04:21 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvEvdpdcHwc
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHwf2iJLFic
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpO0lsTQSs0
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:28 PM
 
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Listen to all of the videos in total, including this one.


Let John's own words speak the/his TRUTH....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKc0wEmwmYc
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